Hi Phil and Bill,

It didn't cure my disease. I can run coot. I just have to open the first coot 
then open a second session. The second session behaves fine as long as the 
first "frozen" one is still open. No idea what it is and it doesn't seem to 
matter if a nightly build or the stable release. Something definitely changed 
in my system that I didn't authorize but the ghost of Steve Jobs must have.
Joe
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Joseph P. Noel, Ph.D.
Arthur and Julie Woodrow Chair
Investigator, Howard Hughes Medical Institute
Professor, The Jack H. Skirball Center for Chemical Biology and Proteomics
The Salk Institute for Biological Studies
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On Feb 19, 2014, at 4:53 AM, Phil Evans <[email protected]> wrote:

> Is this a killer for updating to 10.9? Is it still usable with this option? I 
> have my laptop plugged into an external display, but keep my laptop as a 
> secondary screen.
> 
> I've been holding off updating from 10.8 to 10.9, and wondering when or if I 
> should do it
> 
> Phil
> Î
> On 18 Feb 2014, at 22:49, William G. Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Joe:
>> 
>> Thanks very much for your encouraging and kind words.
>> 
>> I just had a problem today that might be related.  Briefly, with 2 monitors 
>> on 10.9.1, coot opens and then disappears .  I don’t get the “footprints”, 
>> but that might be monitor or graphics-card specific.
>> 
>> In any case, the work-around (which I am not happy with) is to go into 
>> System Preferences > Mission Control and uncheck the box that says “Displays 
>> have separate Spaces”.  Then log out and log back in again, and maybe it 
>> will work.
>> 
>> <Screen Shot 2014-02-18 at 2.43.47 PM.png>
>> 
>> If that fixes it, this is the bug.  No one wants to take responsibility:
>> 
>> https://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/ticket/817
>> 
>> 
>> HTH,
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Joseph Noel <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Bill!
>>> 
>>> Don't apologize! You are doing a world of service for the community! I am 
>>> running the latest and running the Maverick. One thing I found out - if I 
>>> open Coot through CCP4, from Phenix or directly from an xwindow, the coot 
>>> window appears but is white and if you read in anything, nothing shows up. 
>>> If you then "drag" the window, it leaves behind "footprints". If, however, 
>>> I leave this original Coot window open and start a second Coot session 
>>> using any of the three methods, i.e. started from within ccp4i, started 
>>> from within Phenix or started from an xwindow using /usr/local/bin/coot, 
>>> this second session works fine - black background, can see maps and 
>>> coordinates, ...
>>> 
>>> Does that help in diagnosing? It must be something I am doing on my MacBook 
>>> Pro running 10.9.1 and XQuartz 2.7.5.
>>> 
>>> Joe
>>> ______________________________________________________________________________________
>>> Joseph P. Noel, Ph.D.
>>> Arthur and Julie Woodrow Chair
>>> Investigator, Howard Hughes Medical Institute
>>> Professor, The Jack H. Skirball Center for Chemical Biology and Proteomics
>>> The Salk Institute for Biological Studies
>>> 10010 North Torrey Pines Road
>>> La Jolla, CA  92037 USA
>>> 
>>> Phone: (858) 453-4100 extension 1442
>>> Cell: (858) 349-4700
>>> Fax: (858) 597-0855
>>> E-mail: [email protected]
>>> 
>>> Publications & Citations: 
>>> http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=xiL1lscAAAAJ
>>> 
>>> Homepage Salk: http://www.salk.edu/faculty/noel.html
>>> Homepage HHMI: http://hhmi.org/research/investigators/noel.html
>>> ______________________________________________________________________________________
>>> 
>>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 7:10 AM, William G. Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 11, 2014, at 7:19 PM, Joseph Noel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I've started installing the latest nightly builds of Coot that Bill Scott 
>>>>> maintains. They go into /usr/local/bin/coot. It will open but the screen 
>>>>> is white, if you move the window around on the Mac it seems to duplicate 
>>>>> and worse, if you load coordinates or a map, nothing appears. I must have 
>>>>> missed something in setting it up but if anyone has a suggestion of 
>>>>> something I am missing would be much appreciated.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry for the problems.
>>>> 
>>>> Which version of OS X is it?  If it is compatible, it might be worth 
>>>> downloading the latest version of X11.app:  
>>>> https://xquartz.macosforge.org/landing/  (It says for 10.6 or later).  If 
>>>> I built coot with a more recent version of X11 than you have, this might 
>>>> be the problem.
>>>> 
>>>> I just downloaded the latest coot nightly to check to make sure it worked 
>>>> (it does on my 10.9.1 macbook air).
>>>> 
>>>> — Bill
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 

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