It seems to me that Rachel's answer is somewhat unclear. To rephrase then: if I deposit a new structure with a new ligand and I give it an as-yet-unassigned three-letter-code, will the RCSB/wwPDB keep the code I gave it? Actually a straight reading of Rachel's answer is "no" - but I understood the opposite to be the case (which is why I wrote coot.available-comp-id).

Paul.


On 19/06/2015 20:49, Sheriff, Steven wrote:

All:

Since the original query was cross-posted on both the COOT mailing list and the CCP4BB Rachel Green gave me permission to forward this to both. She provides links about the mechanism of assignment of 3-letter codes. In the third link below, my original suggestion to the COOT mailing list that one could just use UNK is incorrect as that is reserved for unknown amino acids. According to this document, I should have suggested UNL for an unknown ligand.

Steven

*From:*Rachel Kramer Green [mailto:kra...@rcsb.rutgers.edu]
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2015 10:21 AM
*To:* Sheriff, Steven
*Cc:* info
*Subject:* Re: New ligand 3-letter code (help-7071)

Dear Steven,

During annotation of ligands, all chemical components present in the structure are compared against the definitions in the Chemical Component Dictionary (http://www.wwpdb.org/data/ccd). If the ligand is not in the dictionary, a three letter code is assigned. See http://www.wwpdb.org/documentation/policy#toc_assignment <http://www.wwpdb.org/documentation/policy#toc_assignment>. In the future, a group of three-letter codes may be set aside to be used during refinement to flag new ligands.

Clarification about the ligand ids assignment and in particular the usage of UNX/UNL/UNK residues can be found at http://www.wwpdb.org/documentation/procedure#toc_2.

Best wishes,
Rachel

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On 6/5/2015 7:50 AM, Sheriff, Steven wrote:

    All:

    Why the concern for unassigned three-letter codes? The wwPDB isn’t
    going to let you assign a three-letter code, it will choose its
    own code.

    At BMS (a pharmaceutical company), we do many hundreds of
    structures a year with ligands and we assign the same, already
    assigned, three-letter code for all of our ligands (unless we have
    two or more different ligands in a single structure, in which case
    we use two or more different already assigned three-letter
    codes).  COOT can mostly handle this.

    However, I believe that if you want an unassigned code, the wwPDB
    has set aside UNK[nown] for this purpose.

    Steven

    *From:*Mailing list for users of COOT Crystallographic Software
    [mailto:COOT@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] *On Behalf Of *Eleanor Dodson
    *Sent:* Friday, June 05, 2015 6:28 AM
    *To:* COOT@JISCMAIL.AC.UK <mailto:COOT@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
    *Subject:* Re: New ligand 3-letter code

    I use your method - trial & error..

    It would be nice if at least there was a list somewhere of
    unassigned codes!

    On 5 June 2015 at 09:16, Lau Sze Yi (SIgN)
    <lau_sze...@immunol.a-star.edu.sg
    <mailto:lau_sze...@immunol.a-star.edu.sg>> wrote:

    Hi,

    What is the proper way of generating 3-letter code for a new
    ligand? As of now, I insert my ligand in Coot using smiles string
    and for the 3-letter code I picked a non-existent code by trial
    and error (not very efficient). A cif file with corresponding name
    which I generated using Phenix was imported into Coot.

    I am sure there is a proper way of doing this. Appreciate your
    feedback.

    Regards,

    Sze Yi

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