Here is a good website for ring pucker of sugars, as investigated by 
Sundaralingam et.al.


https://x3dna.org/highlights/two-slightly-different-definitions-of-sugar-pucker

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x3dna.org
Homepage of the 3DNA suite of software programs for the analysis, rebuilding 
and visualization of 3-dimensional nucleic acid structures




Kenneth A. Satyshur, M.S., Ph.D.

Senior Scientist,

Depts. Bacteriology, Bio Molecular Chemistry,

Neuroscience, Oncology, Carbone Cancer Center,

and the School of Pharmacy

University of Wisconsin-Madison

Madison, Wisconsin, 53706

608-215-5207

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From: Bernhard Rupp <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 9:14:07 AM
To: Kenneth Satyshur; [email protected]
Subject: RE: Carbohydrate torsion


Just a note to remember: This is a modelling job – no density and if a refined 
glycan tree conformation would be what is really there, we also

would see them in structures one would guess…. I envision this more to see 
whether the glycans are in the way (and to what degree I can bend them away).

I prefer the fuzzball image, some sort of a ‘volume of possible presence’….



I think this is becoming more and more important but still a long way to go….



Thanks!



Best, BR



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Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 15:07
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Carbohydrate torsion



Put structure in modeling program like Maestro or Sybyl, twist, minimize, save, 
generate restraints,  refine.

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From: Mailing list for users of COOT Crystallographic Software 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Paul Emsley 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 7:21:01 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Carbohydrate torsion



On 08/05/2019 12:17, Bernhard Rupp wrote:

Dear Fellow Cootsters,



I am trying to use the flexibility of glycans as validation of a docking model 
(no density available)

by torsioning the glycans into conformations where they do not interfere/clash 
with the models.



OK, but from that description it seems better to me to do a glyco tree 
regularization.





It seems ‘general torsion’ works only on bona fide amino acid torsions and not 
in a strict ‘general’ sense?



That shouldn't be the case.  "Torsion general" least sophisticated way of 
moving atoms by manipulation of torsion angles. FWIW, I'd prefer, if possible, 
to use Chi Angle manipulation or Multi-residue torsion.



I don't use WinCoot, so I don't know the status of these tools.



How can I do such arbitrary torsions in wincoot? For now, I can do it in ICM.





Fighting talk  :-)



Paul.





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