Hello,
On 31/08/2020 12:56, Erwin Pannecoucke wrote:
Dear all, I'd like to share some experiences from Windows users that are trying out the Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL). The Windows Subsystem for Linux lets developers run a GNU/Linux environment -- including most command-line tools, utilities, and applications -- directly on Windows, unmodified, without the overhead of a traditional virtual machine or dualboot setup. (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/about) ] Recently, Windows improved the implementation of WSL to a whole new level, and introduced WLS2. WSL 2 is a new version of the Windows Subsystem for Linux architecture that powers the Windows Subsystem for Linux to run ELF64 Linux binaries on Windows. Its primary goals are to increase file system performance, as well as adding full system call compatibility. This new architecture changes how these Linux binaries interact with Windows and your computer's hardware. Specifically, where for example BUSTER crashed when trying to run in WSL, it now seems to be working fine. Note that PHENIX, XDS, ... were already working on WSL1.
Coot was working on WSL 1 already as well (just download binaries - dont worry about building it). However, it was pretty slow.
As building WinCOOT is poorly documented (no offence, Mr. Emsley), I just build COOT from source using WSL2
Nothing to do with Mr. Emsley but rather me. However, the minority of Windows user will NOT want to build WinCoot themselves and you get binaries, so why bother. Otherwise, you get the corresponding build scripts on github (both msys and msys2) just as for Coot. Just have a look in my repository (https://github.com/bernhardcl/coot). (*). It finished nicely (which comes as no surprise), and is running smooth in on my Linux machine (**). Interestingly, I can run it from within WSL2, and see no differences in performance. Admittedly, this is very anecdotal: I haven't benchmarked this, and just played around with 2 of my structures (both with quite a lot of protein the ASU, no nucleic acids). In other words: WLS2 makes it quite easy to run the latest coot version on Windows, with (almost?) no dips in performance. See above... Just get binaries for the appropriate subsystem.
WSL2 is still intended for developers. But given it generates compatibility with (all?) of our crystallographic packages without losing performance, this could make life easier not only for Windows users, but also for developers, as they do not need to target multiple OSes. That is why I thought this could perhaps use a little bit of your attention.
Indeed this is a nice option and may save some troubles but as mentioned the majority of Windows users is happy with binaries and dont want to (or even cannot) get into these options. This is what you do on Windows, go to Play or whatever "store" and download, otherwise you use Linux or Mac ;-) Note: I havent tried WSL2 myself yet. Too afraid at the moment an update may destabilise my system which I cannot afford (another "advantage" of using Windows). B
Kind regards, Erwin (*) I wanted to share this build, but unfortunately our University's GitHub account seems to have some weird restrictions. I can go and annoy IT about this, but only if someone is interested in this. (**) When trying to run refmac, it complains that it can find libguile.so. That library file is in the /lib folder, but doesn't show up as a dependency when executing coot --check-libs. I therefore don't think that this problem is related to (building in) WSL2. --- Erwin Pannecoucke Unit for Structural Biology Dept. of Biochemistry and Microbiology, Ghent University VIB Center for Inflammation Research Tel: +32-(0)9-331-3625 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the COOT list, click the following link: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jiscmail.ac.uk%2Fcgi-bin%2FWA-JISC.exe%3FSUBED1%3DCOOT%26A%3D1&data=02%7C01%7CBernhard.Lohkamp%40KI.SE%7Cdad693385b5c49025f8508d84d9c7e94%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637344682319435870&sdata=VJL%2BV%2FbAHqGRnwSXLBc5jeYwCxlH3PDkvPDXSR7Icpk%3D&reserved=0 This message was issued to members of https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jiscmail.ac.uk%2FCOOT&data=02%7C01%7CBernhard.Lohkamp%40KI.SE%7Cdad693385b5c49025f8508d84d9c7e94%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637344682319435870&sdata=lUAUEzevJrGmRzd9A2atkKTxcZCviFoeOe1VZ6Vf0u4%3D&reserved=0, a mailing list hosted by https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jiscmail.ac.uk%2F&data=02%7C01%7CBernhard.Lohkamp%40KI.SE%7Cdad693385b5c49025f8508d84d9c7e94%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637344682319435870&sdata=yOXEsFvd6uu6PN1FvaeBv3%2FkpkLh7ijA6eTwsinQyUg%3D&reserved=0, terms & conditions are available at https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jiscmail.ac.uk%2Fpolicyandsecurity%2F&data=02%7C01%7CBernhard.Lohkamp%40KI.SE%7Cdad693385b5c49025f8508d84d9c7e94%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637344682319435870&sdata=vREOBd4xXxl9f0KZPFsLk1Gdo%2BRMMm5ykSpqidEAqi4%3D&reserved=0
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