On 31/08/2022 01:37, Gong, Zhen wrote:

Hi Paul,

I think it is a bug. I was able to rotation O10 along the C07-N08 bond, but not the O9. Here is what I got:

Color-by-chain seems normal to me.


Hi Zhen,


My guess is that you are using Torsion General. I don't recall ever using that tool in anger (as it were). For this sort of thing, I would use Edit Chi Angles, and I suspect that if you edit your restraints dictionary as suggested then that will "just work."


Regards,


Paul.

p.s. It is a bug though and I've made a note.


Zhen

*From: *Paul Emsley <pems...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk>
*Date: *Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 20:25
*To: *Gong, Zhen <zg2...@cumc.columbia.edu>, COOT@JISCMAIL.AC.UK <COOT@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
*Subject: *Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Bug in coot to change torsion angles?

On 31/08/2022 01:17, Gong, Zhen wrote:

    Hi Paul,

    Thank you very much for your timely reply. There are still some
    puzzles for me.

    I would like to change some torsion angles of a ligand in coot but
    it did not work as what I expected. I was able to play with the
    torsion angles formed by C06 C07 N08 O10 but not C06 C07 N08 O09
    (shown in the figure below).

    One implies the other, it seems to me.

    I do not agree. One changes the position of O10, while the other
    changes O9. What I would like to do is to manually make the O9 and
    O10 in the same plane with aromatic ring if possible. I was able
    to rotate O10 along the C07-N08 bond but not 09, which I shall be
    able to do in coot?

If I understand correctly what you are saying then that's a bug. C06-C07-N08-O09 defines a rotatable bond (C07-N08) about which one side of the fragment (the smaller side) is rotated - i.e. you cannot move O10 without moving O09 also. That's how it should work. It seems that you are saying that that is not how it's working for you.

    By the way, I was able to make O9 and O10 in the same plane with
    the aromatic ring by adding planar restraint. I would like to know
    why I could not rotate O9 along the N08-C07 bond if possible.

Me too. It does seem very curious. Is there a missing bond restraint - what happens when you display using colour-by-chain?

Paul.


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