Hi Andrew,
I think characterizing this specific instance as a case of "too late to change anything" is a tad harsh. The memory access API has been made available via an _incubating_ module for precisely this reason - to make it more widely accessible, so that developers (like you!) could try it out (as we're well aware that not all the folks who might be interested in this API might not be on panama-dev) and report back on their experience. The API being incubating means that there's plenty of time to change and improve things, based on feedback - please do not assume that what we made available in JDK 14 is set in stone, as that's the opposite of what JEP 11 [1] is supposed to mean.

If you prefer to have this discussion in core-libs, feel free to do so - but I'd suggest to (1) keep panama-dev in CC and (2) start a new thread since the issue you raise has nothing to do with this RFR.

Cheers
Maurizio

[1] - https://openjdk.java.net/jeps/11

On 16/01/2020 14:29, Andrew Haley wrote:
On 1/15/20 6:48 PM, Maurizio Cimadamore wrote:
Maybe this would be best moved on panama-dev?
OK, I'll do that, but this affects everyone. It's one of the
difficulties of OpenJDK development that no-one sees the proposals of
projects like this except on the dev list; by the time everyone else
knows it's too late to change anything.

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