On 2023-09-20 09:38, Andrew Leonard wrote:

Thanks Alan,

So different gcc, glibc, Xcode,.. agree, they need to be the same for identical bits. However, at the moment using the same toolchains, if you do a standard product build,
and then a bootcycle build, of the same source, jrt-fs.jar will differ.
I'll do some investigation of the make files to see if a "Build JDK" rebuild of jrt-fs.jar is
feasible.

I would not in general assume that a normal build and a bootcycle build produce identical results. A bootcycle build will build the product using a newer version of the JDK (viz. the one you just build from the sources), and as such, changes to javac can result in different class file outputs, etc. That being said, for large time periods of the JDK source code, a normal build and a bootcycle build can certainly result in the same output, since no changes have been made in the product that affects how .class files are generated. But that is not guaranteed, nor is a difference between normal and bootcycle build a sign of trouble or a defect.

If jrt-fs.jar is consistently different between a bootcycle build and a normal build, that sounds a bit odd, though. Especially since it should be built with `--release 8` (or something like that) to ensure it is usable on older Java; and that output ought not to really change as the JDK develops.

(Also, questions about the build process is preferably handled on the build-dev list)

/Magnus



Cheers
Andrew


On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 5:42 PM Alan Bateman <alan.bate...@oracle.com> wrote:

    On 18/09/2023 14:51, Andrew Leonard wrote:
    > Thanks for the clarification Alan.
    >
    > To ensure the reproducibility of the whole JDK image regardless
    of the
    > specific bootjdk used, would it make sense once the "Build JDK" has
    > been built, we re-build jrt-fs.jar again using the "Build JDK" ?
    Thus
    > jrt-fs.jar will be consistent with the rest of the image in
    terms of
    > what it is compiled with.
    >

    The boot JDK will be JDK N-1, or the newly built JDK in the case
    of boot
    cycle builds. It seems a bit of a stretch to have builds using
    different
    tool chains to produce identical bits but maybe you mean something
    else.

    In any case, for jrt-fs.jar the important thing is that they are
    compiled to --release 8 (that might rev at some points) so that
    IDEs/tools can open a target run-time image as a file system and
    access
    the classes/resources.

    -Alan.

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