Thank you Jason!!! Very useful.. I’m searching for a similar page for 
iPhones..in case you have it handy! :)

> On 11 Nov 2018, at 09:27, Jason Cowling <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi - documentation (images) of microphone locations here: 
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201471 
> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201471> 
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>> 1. Re: iPad Pro 3 audio distortion? (Dean Reyburn)
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>> Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2018 15:18:16 -0500
>> From: Dean Reyburn <[email protected]>
>> To: CoreAudio <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: iPad Pro 3 audio distortion?
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>> Hi Arshia,
>> I’m using AVAudioSessionCategoryPlayAndRecord but maybe I should use 
>> AVAudioSessionCategoryRecord since my app does not itself do any playback. I 
>> do wish to let the user listen to background music on headphones if they 
>> wish.
>> 
>> Apple is suggesting I try the .measurement or AVAudioSessionModeMeasurement 
>> setting. Need to test that.
>> 
>> I use AudioUnits, the lowest level audio input possible.
>> 
>> Sorry I don’t know where all the mics are, I could only find four of them, 
>> three on the front, one on the back. My app only wants to use one mic.
>> 
>> -Dean Reyburn
>> 
>>> On Nov 9, 2018, at 11:36 AM, Arshia Cont <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Dean,
>>> 
>>> What AVAudioSession Category/Mode are you using? Beyond this, you should 
>>> probably tell us how you record (AVAudioEngine? AUnit?).. My first 
>>> suggestion si to check the Stream format of your audio chain with that 
>>> provided by the system (such as sample rate etc.).
>>> 
>>> Do you mind sharing the positions of the 5 microphones?! Time to buy one of 
>>> those I guess! :)
>>> 
>>> Arshia
>>> 
>>>> On 9 Nov 2018, at 17:29, Dean Reyburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> My app, CyberTuner does low level audio recording and custom DSP, then 
>>>> displays the results in a way useful to pro piano tuners. On iPad Pro 
>>>> generation 3 which was just released on Nov. 7th, the audio appears to be 
>>>> distorted. This is the first time I’ve ever seen any general recording 
>>>> issues with iOS devices.
>>>> 
>>>> There are five (!!) microphones on these new devices so I suspect that 
>>>> fact has something to do with the problem. Any suggestions or anyone else 
>>>> see issues with the new iPads?
>>>> 
>>>> My app simply uses the default microphone.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> 
>>>> -Dean Reyburn
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> www.cybertuner.com
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>> Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2018 21:36:31 +0100
>> From: Arshia Cont <[email protected]>
>> To: Dean Reyburn <[email protected]>
>> Cc: CoreAudio <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: iPad Pro 3 audio distortion?
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>> It all depends on the type of live processing you employ with AudioUnits! 
>> You would want to use Measurement Mode if you want low latency by lowering 
>> the AVAudioSession’s Buffer Duration. Note that Measurement mode will remove 
>> AGC and Equalisation to achieve low-latency. So if you record audio, you 
>> need to take that into account.
>> 
>> I would also recommend double checking all the Stream Formats in your 
>> AudioUnit chain.
>> 
>> If you are getting continuous glitches it might be that your custom DSP is 
>> not delivering before the main audio thread cycle. But I’d be surprised if 
>> that’s the case since “iPad Pro 3rd gen” should naturally improve 
>> performance with regards to prior devices I would assume!
>> 
>>> On 9 Nov 2018, at 21:18, Dean Reyburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Arshia,
>>> I’m using AVAudioSessionCategoryPlayAndRecord but maybe I should use 
>>> AVAudioSessionCategoryRecord since my app does not itself do any playback. 
>>> I do wish to let the user listen to background music on headphones if they 
>>> wish.
>>> 
>>> Apple is suggesting I try the .measurement or AVAudioSessionModeMeasurement 
>>> setting. Need to test that.
>>> 
>>> I use AudioUnits, the lowest level audio input possible.
>>> 
>>> Sorry I don’t know where all the mics are, I could only find four of them, 
>>> three on the front, one on the back. My app only wants to use one mic.
>>> 
>>> -Dean Reyburn
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 9, 2018, at 11:36 AM, Arshia Cont <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Dean,
>>>> 
>>>> What AVAudioSession Category/Mode are you using? Beyond this, you should 
>>>> probably tell us how you record (AVAudioEngine? AUnit?).. My first 
>>>> suggestion si to check the Stream format of your audio chain with that 
>>>> provided by the system (such as sample rate etc.).
>>>> 
>>>> Do you mind sharing the positions of the 5 microphones?! Time to buy one 
>>>> of those I guess! :)
>>>> 
>>>> Arshia
>>>> 
>>>>> On 9 Nov 2018, at 17:29, Dean Reyburn <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> My app, CyberTuner does low level audio recording and custom DSP, then 
>>>>> displays the results in a way useful to pro piano tuners. On iPad Pro 
>>>>> generation 3 which was just released on Nov. 7th, the audio appears to be 
>>>>> distorted. This is the first time I’ve ever seen any general recording 
>>>>> issues with iOS devices.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are five (!!) microphones on these new devices so I suspect that 
>>>>> fact has something to do with the problem. Any suggestions or anyone else 
>>>>> see issues with the new iPads?
>>>>> 
>>>>> My app simply uses the default microphone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Dean Reyburn
>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> www.cybertuner.com
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