On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Trammell Hudson <hud...@trmm.net> wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 10:08:38AM -0700, Duncan Laurie wrote:
> > I wouldn't read too much into the data in there, it turns out the ME
> > release that added this output detail (which we shipped in this device)
> > also got it wrong so the data is not reliable.
> Interesting.  Do you mean the ME firmware release that was installed
> in the boot ROM?  Has Intel shipped an updated firmware file for the
> platform?

The power down mitigation thing you see is related to an errata and not
part of the usual watchdog timers.  I turn off the AMT watchdog timer in
our images so hopefully you will not see a problem there.

Intel makes new ME releases for all current and legacy platforms on a
pretty regular basis, but we don't update unless there is a good reason.

> > > The only drawback so far is that FSP takes quite a bit longer
> > > to complete.
> I should say "FSPMemoryInit" takes longer; "FSPTempRamInit" is still
> as fast as before.
> I've removed all of the code from the ME firmware image, except the rbe,
> kernel, syslib and bup files.  I've also resized the ME region from
> 0x1000-0x1FFFFF to 0x1000-0xFFFFF.  This potentially makes another 1 MB
> available to the coreboot payload.

I suspect the longer time spent in FspMemoryInit is due to FSP attempting
to send HECI messages to the ME and timing out.

It looks like Kabylake FSP 2.0 exposes an option for HeciTimeouts which
could be set to 0 to disable the timeouts.  But that is not part of the
Skylake FSP 1.1, so you won't be able to take advantage of it quite yet.
Once we're done with Kabylake integration and the Kabylake FSP 2.0 is
released that may be an option.

> > > It's been up for almost two hours without shutting down.
> The system has been functional most of the day, so the 30 minute
> timer does not seem to be active on this platform.  Everything seems
> to work fine: S3 suspend/resume is slow, but does the right thing now,
> and powertop says the system is around 5W idle (Qubes with a 4.4 kernel,
> mjg59 mentioned that kernel can't take advantage of low power states).

Ya without ME firmware you're not going to get very low idle numbers since
it is involved in a lot of power management and clock gating.  But the fact
that it works at all is progress...

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