Hello Wolfgang, Let me make it very productive... I know you will NOT like it (but I do NOT care, after what you did answer to me)!
Your guy Stefan is here, asking for a help. Stefan got the straight answer: FSP/Coreboot (intermingled), then U_Boot as payload... You got that? What do you want else? Tell me? It is simple and plain! Anything else? Thank you, Zoran On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Wolfgang Denk <[email protected]> wrote: > Hallo Zoran, > > In message <CAGAf8LzBUfqdWN74Kh3SGdSOPiLa4GUKT+Gr-kEN_A9NQShnZQ@mail. > gmail.com> you wrote: > > > > Let us involve in this discussion Mr Denk (father of U-Boot, I know Mr > Denk > > personally)), and Mr Glass (option [B] here mentioned below)... For the > > (targeted by me) purposes (History involved)! > > You drop me here into some thread, and even though you write > "History involved", your quoting style does not really make clear > who i writing what in response to which statements by whom :-( > > Read: I don't know what you want. > > > > > [email protected] writes: > > > I think you are actively hurting the overall ecosystem by working on a > > different > > > project (FSP in U-Boot) which overlaps with Coreboot efforts. > > > > Peter (Stuge), > > > > This is VERY correct statement... You already mentioned: It is NOT INTEL > > FSP, per say? > > I don't understand either of this. Multiple implementations of the > same feature / multiple solutions for the same problem have never > been a bad thing per se. On contrary, in masy cases they have been > an essential requisite to enable technical progress. Of course, it > is always possible to step on someone's toes, but I am not sure > above statement is a result of this. > > So without deeper understanding I disagree with both statemen't - > with Peter's, as different projects for the same thing are not > necessarily bad, and with your's that this was true. > > > It is something I am fighting for years for/in the STRONG interests of > > U-Boot/Open Source: to have consistent strategy with INTEL IOTG > management > > which they ignored/have dominant/aggressive strategy to walk over the > Open > > Source people, people at all (please, INTEL Legal, try to oppose me.. Be > my > > guests, make my day, I know U R watching)?! > > No Intel address is on Cc: - so who do you suspect to be reporting > to Intel legal? > > > *> [email protected] <[email protected]> writes:* > > > > *> The only thing that makes sense is for U-Boot to focus on being a > > payload that is started by coreboot (this has already been done) and for > > your issues to be solved within the coreboot frame.* > > I can imagine a bunch of other scenarios which use vanilla U-Boot > without coreboot at all. I can see no technical reason why x86 must > be different from all other architectures where U-Boot boots > directly. > > > Peter (Stuge), > > > > Although I DO 100% agree with you what you did write (about U-Boot > > politics) in your very first email about DENX Systems (surprising, isn't > > it), with the *last statement* presented here do NOT agree at all!? > > > > This is a (mild per say denial) noise, my dear friend. "BS" (sorry)... To > > start Coreboot FSP and then to have U-Boot payload as third stage boot > > loader??? > > > > GOOGLE would like to have this as concept, don't you agree (huge > > controlling interests involved)? > > > > NOPE! NO GO. Please. Please?! ;-) > > > > Peter... > > Zoran - It is totally impossible here to tell who wrote wich part of > this. From your context, I would guess this was Peter, but from the > working it looks more like yourself. > > Please do yourself and all of us the favour and use clean, > unmistablable quoting, so it is definitely clear who wrote what. > > Otherwise you are just feeding sparks of a potential flame war by > (mis-) attributing text. > > > > On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 4:32 AM, Alexander Couzens <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Do you tried to use coreboot (w/o FSP) + u-boot instead? Or is this out > > of scope? > > > > This is complete nonsense, and you all know it... Forced by INTEL to > > protect their own interests, in very cruel/selfich way! NO GO! Please! > > I don't think this is the way to further a constructive discussion. > > > I did NOT want to offend anybody in this list (if anybody, after all, > feels > > offended), At The End of The Day, I do NOT care... But you all should > think > > what I really wrote here... > > So, you use a flame thrower, and then you don't care? Such > behaviour is usually called trolling... > > > Thanks, but no. > > Wolfgang Denk > > -- > DENX Software Engineering GmbH, Managing Director: Wolfgang Denk > HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany > Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: [email protected] > "Once they go up, who cares where they come down? That's not my > department." - Werner von Braun >
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