On Sat, 6 Oct 2018 16:24:15 -0700 ron minnich <[email protected]> wrote:
> There are people on this list who know better than I what the most > "open" one is. > > Anyone out there have some advice? These are interesting: Samsung Chromebook Plus (based on RK3399, not available in EU) and Asus Chromebook R13 "ECC'17: Run upstream coreboot on an ARM Chromebook" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7_9okzPeHo Cheers, Merlin > > On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 3:17 PM Andrew Luke Nesbit < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On 6 Oct 2018, at 22:17, ron minnich <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > It depends on what you mean by fully. If there is a so-called Mask > > ROM (i.e. initial boot program that's part of the chip itself, not > > replaceable, you can disassemble it however) and the rest of the > > chip is fully open, does that count? > > > > > > That's a good start. In my experience, these are what I've mostly > > seen. > > > > Ideally I mean one where the boot loader (and payload?) are not > > proprietary. Or that an open source boot loader could be used, > > preferably without added blobs. > > > > For my money the ARM chromebooks are still one of the best bets out > > there for messing about with ARM firmware. > > > > > > Yes, I've been looking at getting one for this very purpose, > > especially as it's already a whole, usable system. Have you any > > particular recommendations? > > > > On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 12:30 PM Andrew Luke Nesbit < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > >> > On 6 Oct 2018, at 17:42, ron minnich <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> [...] > >> > > >> > if you really want 100% open, the only real options at this > >> > point are > >> power 9, RISCV and some ARM CPUs. > >> > >> Ron, thanks for your reasoned reply and the contextual > >> background. I believe this is important when embarking on any > >> project with a legacy. > >> > >> I know of libre-friendly POWER9 and RISC-V options. For example, > >> I am currently learning my way around the Talos II (which is > >> excellent). ARM-based systems have been elusive to me. > >> > >> Could you please give some examples of fully libre-friendly > >> ARM-based boards or systems? Thanks!! > >> > >> Kind regards, > >> > >> Andrew > >> > > -- Merlin Büge -- coreboot mailing list: [email protected] https://mail.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot

