On 25/09/2025 16:23, Michael Stone wrote:
On Sat, Sep 20, 2025 at 01:05:52PM -0700, Collin Funk wrote:
The gnu.org site is down or takes ages to load
frequently nowadays.
Yes, I think a lot of normal people would give up before it finished
loading. I don't understand why the site is so slow, and it doesn't help
that the https://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/ link gets redirected to
something like https://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/
meaning you get to wait for the horribly slow load *twice* before
anything happens. Is there a reason not to change the links in the man
pages to point to where the html docs actually are?
Yes gnu.org is bordering on unusable for months now,
and it's a much larger issue than man page redirection.
If users can't access gnu.org that's it.
It's an existential issue.
There is talk of malicious DoS and extra load from AI bots.
But any site on the net has to deal with that.
I mentioned cloudflare as an option on #fsfsys
but was told there was a debate about that,
with the decision it impacted user freedoms.
Though of course inaccessibility to gnu.org is
definitely directly impacting user freedoms.
We could start installing HTML locally etc.
but it still doesn't address the fundamental issue.
If anyone has any insights or contacts even to discuss this with
it would be appreciated.
Padraig
