Pádraig Brady <p...@draigbrady.com> writes: > On 25/09/2025 16:23, Michael Stone wrote: >> On Sat, Sep 20, 2025 at 01:05:52PM -0700, Collin Funk wrote: >>> The gnu.org site is down or takes ages to load >>> frequently nowadays. >> Yes, I think a lot of normal people would give up before it finished >> loading. I don't understand why the site is so slow, and it doesn't help >> that the https://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/ link gets redirected to >> something like https://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/ >> meaning you get to wait for the horribly slow load *twice* before >> anything happens. Is there a reason not to change the links in the man >> pages to point to where the html docs actually are? > Yes gnu.org is bordering on unusable for months now, > and it's a much larger issue than man page redirection. > > If users can't access gnu.org that's it. > It's an existential issue. > > There is talk of malicious DoS and extra load from AI bots. > But any site on the net has to deal with that. > I mentioned cloudflare as an option on #fsfsys > but was told there was a debate about that, > with the decision it impacted user freedoms. > Though of course inaccessibility to gnu.org is > definitely directly impacting user freedoms. > > We could start installing HTML locally etc. > but it still doesn't address the fundamental issue. > > If anyone has any insights or contacts even to discuss this with > it would be appreciated.
Cloudflare would likely fix all our problems, but I didn't even bother suggesting it because I know it would not happen. They decided against using Anubis because of the use of Javascript. I have mentioned using metarefresh challenges a few times since sourceware.org uses them successfully (atleast seemingly so) and they do not require javascript [2]. But those suggestions have been ignored. I was going to suggest moving repositories to codeberg until I was told about a decent way to use mirrors for pulling [3]. But outside of the git mirrors for pulling, I have mostly given up hope that gnu.org will be fixed, sadly. Collin [1] https://www.fsf.org/blogs/sysadmin/our-small-team-vs-millions-of-bots [2] https://anubis.techaro.lol/docs/admin/configuration/challenges/metarefresh/ [3] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnulib/2025-09/msg00205.html
