Hi Hannes,

> On 2021-12-08, at 13:46, Hannes Tschofenig <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Carsten,
> 
> I suspect Laurence is sending this email because of his work on EAT. I am 
> arguing that an attempt to improve the CDDL for the mentioned specs will not 
> lead to any improvement at all because the problem is elsewhere. I am saying 
> that because I have just spent many hours reading the EAT spec.

Thank you for clarifying this, providing the RATS perspective that I’m missing 
here.

I’m glad to hear that EAT only has one problem :-) (“the problem”).

I still think that doing the work I was outlining would help us in various 
specifications.
And when it comes to EAT, I’m assuming that at some point we want to describe 
EAT claims with some statements about their structure, which would naturally 
use CDDL.  But that may not be needed for the initial EAT specification; I 
haven’t checked that.  If it is not needed, it might be too much of a 
distraction to apply the work I was outlining to EAT now.

Grüße, Carsten


> 
> Ciao
> Hannes
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carsten Bormann <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 1:37 PM
> To: Hannes Tschofenig <[email protected]>
> Cc: Laurence Lundblade <[email protected]>; cose <[email protected]>; 
> [email protected]; Henk Birkholz <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Cbor] CDDL for COSE + EAT/CWT + SUIT + CoSIWD
> 
> On 2021-12-08, at 13:30, Hannes Tschofenig <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> EAT by itself is not really an interoperable spec. COSE on its own is not 
>> interoperable either.
> 
> If I guess about the definition of "interoperable spec” you are using here, 
> ASCII is not an interoperable spec either - you still have to agree on what 
> the text means…  Still, ASCII was kind of useful as the basis for a lot of 
> interoperability, I think.
> 
> I think the point here was to shape some CDDL that makes it easier to talk 
> about the way a more specific (interoperable?) spec uses COSE (which does 
> have CDDL, just not in a way that usually can be integrated as-is to express 
> the additional constraints a COSE-using specification typically makes).
> 
> Grüße, Carsten
> 
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