Sure.  That seems like a good place to start in the adopted document.  If 
someone raises a use case, we can discuss it.

Russ


> On Jul 30, 2024, at 1:18 PM, Orie Steele <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for pointing this out :)
> 
> The document defines several headers which are hints regarding the payload.
> 
> In the context of COSE_Encrypt, the payload would still be a hash, but some 
> of these headers (preimage content type and payload location) could leak 
> information about the payload.
> 
> All of the use cases I've seen are for signing hashes that are already well 
> known and distributed or used in existing systems.
> 
> I can't think of a reason to use this approach with encrypted payloads, but 
> from a practical standpoint, I am not sure exactly what the document should 
> say regarding these headers if they appear in COSE_Encrypt.
> 
> Perhaps something to the effect of:
> 
> The cose headers defined in this document SHOULD NOT be used in unprotected 
> or protected headers associated with COSE_Encrypt, unless the sender is 
> comfortable disclosing metadata regarding the encrypted payload.
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> OS
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 12:07 PM Russ Housley <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Section 3 says:  Should we define this?
>> 
>> Of course, things can change after adoption, but this seems like a fairly 
>> being open hole.
>> 
>> I would like to see this document be adopted without Section 3.  The COSE 
>> approach would be to use COSE_Encrypt is the payload needs confidentiality.
>> 
>> Russ
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 30, 2024, at 12:42 PM, Ivaylo Petrov 
>>> <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear all,
>>> 
>>> This message starts the call for adoption of the following draft as working 
>>> group item:
>>> 
>>> * draft-steele-cose-hash-envelope:
>>>   - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-steele-cose-hash-envelope/
>>> 
>>> As discussed during the last IETF, there seems to be interest in the 
>>> working group to work on that document. If you have read the draft, please 
>>> indicate whether you support its adoption as a working group item or not.
>>> 
>>> We would also like to remind you that adoption does not mean a document is 
>>> finished, only that it is an acceptable starting point.
>>> 
>>> This call will run for two weeks, ending on Aug 13nd. Please try to respond
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>>> 
>>> Best regards,
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