Hi Alex This might be relevant but there is a book called "Newtownstewart Remembered" by Billy Dunbar. The names Dunbar, McCrossan and Smyth are mentioned in the book.
Regards Pat On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 9:00 AM, Boyd Gray <boydgra...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Alex, > > Well, to start with, Matilda cannot be born in 1859 and get married in > 1867. Aged 8? First we need to sort out who is who. > > Okay, so let's assume that you have the right marriage and the birth is > spurious, this is her: > > Civil Marriage Record > Date of Marriage: 09-May-1867 > Parish / District: STRABANE County: TYRONE > Husband Wife > Name: David Dumbar Matilda Smyth > Address: Letterbrat Ballynamallaght > Occupation: FARMER > Age: 22 22 > Status: Bachelor (Previously unmarried) Spinster (Previously unmarried) > Husband's Father Wife's Father > Name: John Dumbar James Smyth > Address: > Occupation: FARMER FARMER > Husband's Mother Wife's Mother > Name: > Address: > Occupation: > Witness 1 Witness 2 > Name: James Robert Tynan William Smyth > Address: > Notes: > DUNAMANA PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH PARISH OF DONAGHADY.BOTH AGES GIVEN AS > FULL OVER 21. > > If this is accurate, she was born before 1845, so there will be no civil > birth record (they began in 1864). > > This is her father, he held Plot 13, a 1 acre farm in Ballynamallght in > the Parish of Donaghedy in 1859: > > Griffith's Valuation Record Information > Tenant > Family Name 1 SMYTH > Forename 1 JAMES > Landlord > Family Name 2 OGILBY > Forename 2 JAMES > Location > County TYRONE > Barony STRABANE, LOWER > Union GORTIN > Parish DONAGHEDY > Townland BALLYNAMALLAGHT > Place Name BALLYNAMALLAGHT > Place Type TOWNLAND > Publication Details > Position on Page 40 > Printing Date 1859 > Act 15&16 > Sheet Number 6 > Map Reference 13 A,B > > This is his death: > > Name JAMES SMYTH > Year of Death 1904 > Group Registration ID 3452678 > SR District/Reg Area Strabane > Deceased Age at Death 96 > Image > Son, Jacob, also of Ballynamallaght, was present at death > > This is her in 1901: > > 1901 Census: > Residents of a house 18 in Letterbrat (Plumbridge, Tyrone) > Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation > Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses > Dunbar David 59 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Co Tyrone Farmer Read > and write - Married - > Dunbar Matilda Jane 52 Female Wife Presbyterian Co Tyrone - Read and write > - Married - > Dunbar Sarah Ann 20 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Tyrone General Read > and write - Not Married - > Dunbar Maggie 18 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Tyrone General Read and > write - Not Married - > Dunbar David 16 Male Son Presbyterian Co Tyrone General Read and write - Not > Married - > > That gives a YoB of 1849.... but this census is often wrong. > > And here she is in 1911: > > 1911 Census: > Residents of a house 7 in Letterbrat (Plumb Bridge, Tyrone) > Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation > Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married > Children > Born Children Living > Dunbar Matilda Jane 65 Female Head of Family Presbyterian Co Tyrone - Read > and write - Widow - 44 8 7 > Dunbar James 32 Male Son Presbyterian Co Tyrone Farmer Read and write - > Single - > > This gives her age as 1846, which is more or less what I guessed from her > marriage, so forget 1959. And probably Upper Badoney..... unless you know > different. > > This is the death of David which you already have, it seems: > > Name DAVID DUNBAR > Year of Death 1907 > Group Registration ID 3561946 > SR District/Reg Area Strabane > Deceased Age at Death 68 > Image > > He was a farmer from Letterbrat and his daughter, Sarah, was present at > his death. > > This is very probably her death but YOU need to buy the death cert from > GRONI to be sure. It costs only £2.50: > > D/1923/220/1027/12/173 Jane Dunbar 25th December 1922 77 Female > Strabane(pre-1973 > Q4) > > Where did you get the 1851 census?! And her mother's name? > > They will be buried in the nearest Presbyterian church. > > Hope this helps, > > Regards, > > Boyd > > https://www.facebook.com/westulstergenealogy/ > > http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/ > > https://boydgray26.wixsite.com/westulstergenealogy > > > On 29 April 2018 at 20:37, alex carlisle <alex_carli...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi my name is Alex Carlisle I live in England and I'd be really grateful >> if someone would be able to help me please, i'm trying to trace my >> family ancestors in Co Tyrone, in particular my Grt Grt Gran Matilda Jane >> Dunbar Nee Smyth, born 1859 Glencoppogagh townland upper Badney Parish, I >> do not know when she died or where she is buried. Matilda married David >> Dunbar in Donemana Presbyterian Church in 1867, David died in Letterbrat in >> Upper Badney in 1907. Also her father, James Smyth, her mother Matilda nee >> McCrossan this is all I found on the 1851 census. i'd be most grateful >> for any help if finding where /when they died or where they are buried. >> >> kind regards & many thanks >> >> Alex >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CoTyroneList mailing list >> CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com >> http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelis >> t_cotyroneireland.com >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > CoTyroneList mailing list > CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com > http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/ > cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com > >
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