Ron, I don’t know where you are but I am able to access Ancestry at my local public library here in Calgary. iola
Sent from my iPad > On Oct 17, 2018, at 5:55 PM, Iola Whiteside via CoTyroneList > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Roy > > iola here. I guess I haven’t done any searching in the Belfast Newsletter > Archive for some time. All I had done in the past was a simple google > search. Today, everything that comes up...comes at a cost. All I could find > that is still accessible is the Louisiana University index. > www.ucs.louisiana.edu. I do have a subscription to Ancestry and have > access that way. British Newspapers is good also but you must have a > subscription. The shipping news in that paper is easy to find though and > very interesting. Names of passengers aren’t given however. The Quebec > Gazette and the Quebec Morning Chronicle are two other sources but I have > not used them. > Sorry I couldn’t be of more help. > iola > > From: Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 5:38 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Ron McCoy > Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] sailing information > > Hi Elwyn > > It is always possible that Liverpool played a part but I am working on the > memory past down by my great grand father Wm McCoy who makes no mention of > Liverpool. He remembered the leaving of Belfast and the terrible passage they > had. Locked in a hold as a steerage passenger with terrible sickness aboard > the ship. He made no mention to my grand father of any stops other then the > landing at Quebec. The church records show their Pastor David Evans who I > believed traveled with them leaving his post in 1838 the same year my people > say they left. Rev Evans church log shows him recording births and deaths in > mid August of 1838 at St. Theresa Quebec where they hoped to homestead but > were forced to leave do to political unrest. Taking into account the ice burg > season and they did not travel south and come up through he USA that gives a > very small window they could have come. I think the most likely time of > arrived would be May to mid July. 1838 was by all accounts a lower year for > Irish immigrants traveling to Canada according to the Quebec Mercury. Given > all of that if it is correct lowers the number of possible ships down to > three or four with the Dumfrires Shire being a likely candidate as it is > clearly mentioned carrying 276 steerage passengers who are sick and taken to > St. Ill de Gosse May 27th. The bulk of the shipping from Belfast was by a > company called G.H. Parke owner of the ship. Parke co. They had lost 300 > steerage passengers a few years earlier on the ship Lady of the Lake when she > struck an ice burg off Newfoundland in late April. This is the only record I > can find of the company other then the comings and goings in the Shipping > news and the shipping list. Genealogy is as always based on slim hopes. My > hope is to find some record that might link my family immigration to a ship. > All that I have related to you is bits of information related to me by my > father but backed up by historical events. I think their is more to find and > it is fun looking. > > Cheers > > Ron McCoy > > >> On 2018-10-16 4:47 PM, elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList wrote: >> Possibly worth bearing in mind that whilst there were direct ships from >> Ireland to Canada and elsewhere throughout the 1800s, there were far more >> from Liverpool. Liverpool acted as a clearing house for migrants from all >> over Europe, and had far more departures than from Ireland. Competition for >> the passengers was fierce with ships agents routinely throwing in cost of >> the short passage from Ireland to Liverpool free (together with dodgy >> accommodation in Liverpool), as part of the ticket price. Many more migrants >> in the 1800s left Ireland via Liverpool than left directly from Ireland. >> Significant numbers also left via Glasgow. For background, see: >> >> >> >> http://donegalancestry.com/donegal/emigration/ >> >> >> >> >> >> Elwyn >> >> >>> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 1:20 PM Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi Lola >>> >>> I hope you are well and had a good summer. I have searched the Quebec >>> Mercury for information on the shipping news as youi suggested and it was >>> wonderful. I believe my family probably took one of G.H. Parke ships as >>> their line made the most crossings and some such as the Dumfries Shire is >>> listed as having 276 steerage passengers. I have tried to access the >>> Belfast newsletter as you suggested in hopes more information is there but >>> I can only find subscriptions to it? Could you tell me if it is a paid or >>> free site you are using? I also wonder if you know anything about the G.H. >>> Parke co. as there seems to be nothing on line about them? Thank you for >>> your help. >>> >>> cheers >>> >>> Ron McCoy >>> >>> >>>> On 2018-08-18 11:07 AM, Iola Whiteside via CoTyroneList wrote: >>>> Hi Ron, Iola here. I just google both the Belfast Newsletter archives >>>> and the Quebec Mercury. The webpage for the Mercury is in French but the >>>> newspaper printed in English. It is east to navigate. Just click on the >>>> calendar ikon on the right side, find the year, month etc. I took a quick >>>> look and the ships arriving in 1828 are listed. I hope this helps and let >>>> me know if I can be of further assistance. >>>> Iola. >>>> >>>> From: Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList >>>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 10:44 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Cc: Ron McCoy >>>> Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] sailing information >>>> >>>> Hi All >>>> >>>> Thanks for the information. The lack of shipping list is a problem and as >>>> has been noted travel between Canada and Ireland was not registered. A >>>> real problem... I have tried the steam ship lines from Quebec to Montreal >>>> with out success but they also ran Bateaux service which is how I assume >>>> they must have come. I think the suggestion of the Belfast News, The >>>> Quebec Mercury or the JJ Cooke shipping records might give me the names of >>>> ships that would have sailed out of Belfast and arrived in Quebec in the >>>> time I suspect. That would be a great help. >>>> >>>> Iola would you have the online site that these can be found on? Thank you >>>> all for your help >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Ron McCoy >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 2018-08-17 9:33 AM, Elizabeth Vervaeke via CoTyroneList wrote: >>>>> My family came from Brackagh (Errigal Keerogue) >>>>> through Londonderry on the Sesosthis in 1847 . I was able to find their >>>>> passenger list from the JJ Cooke Shipping records . There are many ships >>>>> listed. >>>>> Perhaps it’s worth a search here ... >>>>> >>>>> https://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/qu_seth1847.shtml >>>>> >>>>> Kind Regards >>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 9:30 AM Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Hi all >>>>>> I have tried several times to find sailing records for the year 1828 >>>>>> from Belfast to Canada. This is the year I believe my family and their >>>>>> neighbours left Tyrone and immigrated. However I am told there is no >>>>>> passenger records in the early years of the 1800's. I was wondering if >>>>>> there was a list some where of just ships names that sailed even if >>>>>> there was not passenger lists. I am confident that they sailed after >>>>>> iceberg season and arrived in the Montreal area around the end of August >>>>>> or beginning of September of 1838. If I had a list of ships sailing out >>>>>> of Belfast I might be able to deduce which ship they sailed on? If >>>>>> anyone has experience or an idea where ships names or records that might >>>>>> have sailed from Belfast it would be of great interest to me? >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> Ron McCoy >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> CoTyroneList mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com >>>>> -- >>>>> Libby Vervaeke >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> CoTyroneList mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> CoTyroneList mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> CoTyroneList mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CoTyroneList mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CoTyroneList mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com > > _______________________________________________ > CoTyroneList mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com > _______________________________________________ > CoTyroneList mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com
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