Hi Len Thank you all for your help and thoughts. The G.H. Parke I see in the Quebec Mercury 1838 Shipping Intelligence has an Office on India Wharf Quebec city and has commissioned several ships to be built in Quebec and New Brunswick. They then re-register the ships from Canada to Belfast (Archives Canada). I suspect that the Gown, Parke co. 1855 in the advertisement is possibly a later merger of two companies, Gown and G.H. Parke. As you mentioned they do handle a lot of passengers especially in steerage. I believe that at least eight families sailed that day with them leaving the Pomeroy area forever and sailing to Canada. The average family size being five to six it would take a reasonably sized Bark or ship to accommodate them all. You all have given me several leads to follow thank you for your help and any further thoughts will be greatly appreciated.
Ron McCoy On 2018-10-17 8:43 AM, Len Swindley wrote: Thanks for your helpful and insightful response Elwyn. Ron, It is not possible to locate any information relevant to the company G H Parke; perhaps you are thinking of GOWAN, PARKE & CO of Belfast? This company was, amongst many things maritime, agents for shipping and emigration agents, representing Glasgow and Liverpool shipping companies, including the famed Black Ball Line out of Liverpool. The company did not operate a fleet of ships under their own name. Belfast Newsletter December 4 1855 [cid:part1.75E2389F.AB4A77A2@Outlook.com] Their advertisements were published in every edition of the Belfast Newsletter indicating great activity in the emigration trade. The Belfast Newsletter is accessible via Findmypast. Hope this assists your research, Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: CoTyroneList <cotyronelist-boun...@cotyroneireland.com><mailto:cotyronelist-boun...@cotyroneireland.com> on behalf of elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com><mailto:cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 7:47:29 AM To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List Cc: elwyn soutter Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] sailing information Possibly worth bearing in mind that whilst there were direct ships from Ireland to Canada and elsewhere throughout the 1800s, there were far more from Liverpool. Liverpool acted as a clearing house for migrants from all over Europe, and had far more departures than from Ireland. Competition for the passengers was fierce with ships agents routinely throwing in cost of the short passage from Ireland to Liverpool free (together with dodgy accommodation in Liverpool), as part of the ticket price. Many more migrants in the 1800s left Ireland via Liverpool than left directly from Ireland. Significant numbers also left via Glasgow. For background, see: http://donegalancestry.com/donegal/emigration/ Elwyn On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 1:20 PM Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com<mailto:cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com>> wrote: Hi Lola I hope you are well and had a good summer. I have searched the Quebec Mercury for information on the shipping news as youi suggested and it was wonderful. I believe my family probably took one of G.H. Parke ships as their line made the most crossings and some such as the Dumfries Shire is listed as having 276 steerage passengers. I have tried to access the Belfast newsletter as you suggested in hopes more information is there but I can only find subscriptions to it? Could you tell me if it is a paid or free site you are using? I also wonder if you know anything about the G.H. Parke co. as there seems to be nothing on line about them? Thank you for your help. cheers Ron McCoy On 2018-08-18 11:07 AM, Iola Whiteside via CoTyroneList wrote: Hi Ron, Iola here. I just google both the Belfast Newsletter archives and the Quebec Mercury. The webpage for the Mercury is in French but the newspaper printed in English. It is east to navigate. Just click on the calendar ikon on the right side, find the year, month etc. I took a quick look and the ships arriving in 1828 are listed. I hope this helps and let me know if I can be of further assistance. Iola. From: Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList<mailto:cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 10:44 PM To: cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com<mailto:cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> Cc: Ron McCoy<mailto:ron.mc...@outlook.com> Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] sailing information Hi All Thanks for the information. The lack of shipping list is a problem and as has been noted travel between Canada and Ireland was not registered. A real problem... I have tried the steam ship lines from Quebec to Montreal with out success but they also ran Bateaux service which is how I assume they must have come. I think the suggestion of the Belfast News, The Quebec Mercury or the JJ Cooke shipping records might give me the names of ships that would have sailed out of Belfast and arrived in Quebec in the time I suspect. That would be a great help. Iola would you have the online site that these can be found on? Thank you all for your help Cheers Ron McCoy On 2018-08-17 9:33 AM, Elizabeth Vervaeke via CoTyroneList wrote: My family came from Brackagh (Errigal Keerogue) through Londonderry on the Sesosthis in 1847 . I was able to find their passenger list from the JJ Cooke Shipping records . There are many ships listed. Perhaps it’s worth a search here ... https://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/qu_seth1847.shtml Kind Regards On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 9:30 AM Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com<mailto:cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com>> wrote: Hi all I have tried several times to find sailing records for the year 1828 from Belfast to Canada. This is the year I believe my family and their neighbours left Tyrone and immigrated. However I am told there is no passenger records in the early years of the 1800's. I was wondering if there was a list some where of just ships names that sailed even if there was not passenger lists. I am confident that they sailed after iceberg season and arrived in the Montreal area around the end of August or beginning of September of 1838. If I had a list of ships sailing out of Belfast I might be able to deduce which ship they sailed on? If anyone has experience or an idea where ships names or records that might have sailed from Belfast it would be of great interest to me? 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