Hello Ann, Further to Elwyn’s succinct response to your query and his on-the-ground local knowledge, I offer a little further information relevant to family names mentioned in your query. Tullyniskan and Drumglass parishes adjoin and the locations mentioned were just a walk away.
TULLYNISKAN Parish Tithe Applotment Book (1826) https://www.cotyroneireland.com/tithe/tullyniskan.html SURNAME GIVEN NAME TOWNLAND FARR George Farlough FARR Widow Farlough BUTLAR James & sons Farlough HART Felix Curran HART Henry Curran HART John Sassagh [Sessia] HART Peter Curran Woodhill is within Tullyniskan & lies close by Farlough, an easy walk Farlough adjoins Sessiagh. To understand the close proximity of these townlands it is essential to refer to the online map of the parishes: https://www.cotyroneireland.com/maps/parish.html and https://www.cotyroneireland.com/townlands/images/DonaghenryDrumglassTullyniskan.pdf DRUMGLASS Parish Tithe Applotment Book (1832) https://www.cotyroneireland.com/tithe/drumglass.html SURNAME GIVEN NAME TOWNLAND RODGERS Hugh Drumcoo RODGERS Hugh Dungannon Gardens (in the Townland of Drumcoo) RODGERS Miss Drumcoo RODGERS Miss Dungannon Gardens (in the Townland of Drumcoo) RODGERS William Gortmerrin RODGERS William Lisnaclin STEEL James Killyneal Hope this is useful and adds a little to your knowledge and regards, Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: CoTyroneList <[email protected]> on behalf of Ann Zerdin via CoTyroneList <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 8:24:42 AM To: elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList Cc: Ann Zerdin Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Steele/ Farr Families Elwyn Thank you so much for your information and quick reply. I truly appreciate all the information. Ann On Saturday, June 29, 2019 04:12:44 PM CDT, elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList <[email protected]> wrote: Ann, The parish where the marriage took place is more commonly called Tullyniskan. I searched the statutory marriage records for a first marriage for Martha Farr 1845 – 1855 but did not find one. That suggests she married before April 1845, which is when those records begin, or that she had married outside Ireland. The townland where Martha was living in 1855 was probably Drumreagh. There are two - Drumreagh Etra and Drumreagh Otra. I searched both in Griffiths Valuation in 1860 for any Rogers or Farr families but did not find any. Likewise I searched Griffiths for a Steele family but there was none in 1860. Tradition was to marry in the bride’s church. Of course if she was previously married, or not native to the area, she may have moved churches, but if Tullyniskan was her family church then their records start in 1794. And in fact there are earlier records for that parish in Drumglass. PRONI has a copy of those records. A personal visit is required to view them there. I see a Private Robert Farr on the Tullyniskan WW1 Role of Honour. I have no way of knowing whether he might be a relation. https://cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/tullyniskan.html There are 3 trees on Ancestry which have this family. Two have John Steele born in Hamilton, Lanarkshire. The other has him born in Fife. All agree he was born 26.9.1830. Clearly there isn’t a consensus on where he was born but if it was Scotland then there may not be many records to find in Ireland. Two of the trees have no parents. The third has John’s father as Alexander which does not agree with the 1855 marriage certificate. So, as with so many trees on Ancestry, not all the data may be totally reliable. There appear to be children born in Lanarkshire 1856 to 1864 but presumably you know that already. According to at least 1 tree Martha Farr was born c 1822. It makes no mention of her first marriage and does not list her parents. Another tree gives her parents as Thomas 1777-1862 and Margaret (maiden name unknown) 1783 – 1864. That tree indicates Thomas Farr was a soldier (enlisted 1801 and discharged 1822 in Caledon, Tyrone, no regiment given). His children were born variously in Dublin, Stewartstown Tyrone, Magherafelt Co Derry, Scotland and then several more in Tyrone. So he moved about a bit making him harder to trace. The tree states he died 18.12.1862 in Desertcreat, Tyrone. That tree also has 2 Thomases, father & son, both dying on 18.12.1862. I suspect that may not be quite correct. Statutory death registration started in Ireland in 1864 so if Margaret Farr died in 1864 there should be a death certificate of her. There is a death that fits. Margaret Farr died 22.11.1864 aged 83, registered in Cookstown. You can view the original certificate on-line on the GRONI website, using the “search registrations” option: https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk You will need to open an account and buy some credits. It costs £2.50 (sterling) to a view a certificate. Hope this helps a bit. Elwyn On 29/06/2019, Ann Zerdin via CoTyroneList <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Good Afternoon > I am interested in obtaining any information available on the Steele/ Farr > Families. My 2nd Great Grandfather was John Steele who married Martha > Rogers (Farr) in 1855. According to the marriage certificate, John Steele > was from Woodhill and his father was James Steele who was a Copper Smith. > Martha Rogers (Farr) was a widow and was from Drumraz and her father was > Thomas Farr who was a Sexton. The marriage took place in Newmills in the > parish of Tuilanisten (the spelling may be wrong) in the County of Tyrone. > The marriage was witnessed by James Bulter and Hamilton Hart and performed > by Robert Kingsmore. > I am interested if there is any other information on either family. I thank > you in advance for your help. > Ann _______________________________________________ CoTyroneList Mailing List Mailing List Email Address: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Change Your Preferences: http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY
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