Thanks Elwyn ... that clears some things up. For instance, I had one great grandfather who was listed as Methodist in the 1901 and 1911 censuses, but who was a warden in the Church of Ireland (Kilskeery Parish) in 1888. We were guessing that he had converted by 1901, but maybe he was affiliated with both? Also, we learned that the closest Methodist church was in Irvinestown, but there was a family home in their local farming community that served as a meeting place for the Methodists.
Rick Smoll -----Original Message----- From: Elwyn Soutter <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; Rick Smoll <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Jan 7, 2021 10:14 am Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Simcoe County, Ontario Rick, I don’t have any specific knowledge of Methodism in Canada, but it was established by members of the Church of Ireland/England who broke away to form a separate denomination. Charles Wesley didn’t want that. He wanted Methodism to be a way of promoting religious adherence whilst remaining part of the Church of England & Ireland. However that didn’t happen, but in Ireland it took a long time for the split to be complete. There was considerable resistance to separating from the Church of Ireland. It was 1815 before Methodists started to conduct their own baptisms. Because of continuing loyalty and other factors, many continued to use the Church of Ireland for baptisms for years after this and it was 1871 before all Methodists routinely performed their own. For Methodist marriages, the earliest that I am aware of, date from 1835 (Belfast Donegall Square, the first Methodist church in Ireland). However in the mid 1800s there were only a few Methodist Ministers (Methodism relied heavily on lay preachers). So that shortage led to the continuing practice of marrying in the Church of Ireland. In addition, in the early years, many Methodist Meeting Houses were not licensed for marriages so that too contributed to couples marrying in the Church of Ireland. So to summarise, the two denominations are close to each other, and were once the same. So moving from Church of England to Methodist, or vice versa, wasn’t a very big step. (The Church of Ireland and Methodist congregations in Lisburn, Co. Antrim share the same church). Elwyn On Thursday, 7 January 2021, 15:59:26 GMT, Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList <[email protected]> wrote: yes ... 1915-1919 I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a relationship before he left for Canada, and that she followed after him. Rick -----Original Message----- From: CoTyroneIreland.com <[email protected]> To: Rick Smoll <[email protected]>; CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Jan 7, 2021 9:54 am Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Simcoe County, Ontario Hi Rick - well not that I am aware of; however, you typed "(late 19-teens) "........... do you mean like 1918 era?? OR ??Jim Jim McKane CoTyroneIreland.com On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:51 AM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList <[email protected]> wrote: This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I understand he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with knowledge of the answer should feel free to chime in. In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were the last generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I have found that one of my great uncles emigrated to Canada (late 19-teens) and was a farmer in the area of Simcoe County. He married a woman who was from a neighboring townland back in C.T. who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if Simcoe County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was an area that attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an ethnic community had evolved. I also noticed that on his marriage certificate his religious affiliation was listed as Church of England, although he had been raised Methodist back in NI ... any comments on that? Thanks!! Rick Smoll ================================= Send a Message to the List - [email protected] List Archive - https://list.cotyroneireland.com/empathy/list/cotyronelist.list.cotyroneireland.com Join the list by sending an email to - [email protected] To receive the Digest version, send an email to - [email protected] Unsubscribe by sending an email to - [email protected] ================================= ================================= Send a Message to the List - [email protected] List Archive - https://list.cotyroneireland.com/empathy/list/cotyronelist.list.cotyroneireland.com Join the list by sending an email to - [email protected] To receive the Digest version, send an email to - [email protected] Unsubscribe by sending an email to - [email protected] =================================
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