My interest if not research tasks have now doubled. I have a James Johnston born in Tyrone about 1800. His wife was Sarah Stinson. So now I have to see if Stevenson was used by her family. As far as I have found, James & Sarah had 3 children between 1827-1841. James Catherine & Ellen. I’m am also gathering titles and links for my research.
On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 10:20 AM Katie Green via CoTyroneList < [email protected]> wrote: > So interesting, thank you. Are you able to trace the generation before > your Joseph Stinson? My Olivia Stinson, b. ca 1821, married one of the many > Hugh Devlins in Ardboe,Tyrone in 1835 — yes, extremely young, and the > ceremony was Protestant, he Catholic. Their first child was named Peter, > which might help in tracing, but the child died soon, it would seem, since > he did not come with them to Canada when they emigrated in 1839. > > Katie Green > > On Sep 13, 2021, at 5:31 AM, Bruce Newport via CoTyroneList < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Last year I was researching the ancestry of Joseph Irvine STEPHENSON > (1878-1935) of Newtownstewart, Tyrone for a branch of my family. Despite > knowing he was from Fermanagh and the names of some of his siblings I found > no trace of his origins and had almost given up the search until I found a > single mention of the surname STINSON in connection with the family. Then > they all tumbled out of the records. > > Joseph STINSON (1844-1927) and his wife Elizabeth (nee WEIR) had a total > of 13 children at Agho, Fermanagh, 11 of whom were named STINSON on birth > registrations, 1 named STENSON and one record I was unable to find. The > children were: Letitia Elizabeth (1874), Harriet Jane (1875), James “Jim” > Henry (1877), Joseph Irvine (1878), Emily Katherine (1881), Bamford John > (1882), Charlie E (1884), Mary Alice “Lily” (1886), Annie Frances (1888), > Rebecca Susan (1890), Robert Edmund (1892), William Wallace (1892), George > Reginald (1897). > > The first record I found of anyone in the family being recorded as > STEPHENSON was the passenger list showing one of the girls returning from > New York to Liverpool in 1900. The following year the family at Agho were > all recorded as STEPHENSON in the 1901 census despite the last child having > been recorded as STINSON at birth only four years earlier. I found two more > records of children being recorded as STINSON in the early 1900’s on travel > documents but other than that, all later records I found have stated > STEPHENSON. > > Of the 13 children, the eldest son remained in Fermanagh, 3 children > relocated to Tyrone, 7 emigrated to the US, and the destiny of two is > unknown. > > The oldest surviving descendant of this line, born 1934 in Newtownstewart > and the source of all my original information about some of those 13 > children, told me she had never heard any reference to the name STINSON and > was quite shocked by the revelation. > > > *From:* Elwyn Soutter via CoTyroneList > <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Monday, September 13, 2021 4:34 AM > *To:* CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List > <[email protected]> > *Cc:* Elwyn Soutter <[email protected]> > *Subject:* [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Stevenson, Stinson > > Katie, > > > The idea of a single or correct spelling for a surname or a place name in > Ireland is very much a recent phenomenon designed to meet the needs of > modern officialdom. Before that there was no consistency. Names were > spelled phonetically and each variation was down to the whim of the > particular person recording the information. You will often see the > spelling change as the records go back. This rarely indicates a deliberate > decision to alter the name, nor even a mistake. Not everyone was literate, > but even when they were, exact and consistent spelling simply wasn’t > something they bothered about. In addition to varying the actual spelling, > O’ or Mac prefixes were optional and were often omitted. > > > In 1899, the Rev Smith reviewed the early records of Antrim 1st > Presbyterian church (covering the years 1674 to c 1736). He noted: “Even > the same word is not always spelled alike by the same hand. Indeed spelling > with most of the recording officials (and they must have been fairly > numerous) was a matter of the most sublime indifference. The name William, > for instance, is spelled 3 different ways in as many lines; while Donegore, > a neighbouring parish, is spelled 10 different ways; but these extend over > a good number of years. Many families names are spelled phonetically, while > others are given in the most round-about fashion.” > > > There are also many interchangeable names in Ireland and you can expect to > see either version feature in the same family. So it’s wise to search Irish > records using both versions. > > > Examples of interchangeable surnames are: McDowell & Madole, Robertson & > Robinson, Kilpatrick and Kirkpatrick, Nogher & Connor, Patterson & > Pattison, Faulkner & Falconer, McConnell & McDonnell, Kerr & Carr, Stewart > & Stuart, McKinney & Mackenzie, plus obviously Stevenson & Steenson. > > > Many forenames are also interchangeable eg Jean & Jane, Jenny & Janet, > Nancy, Agnes & Ann are all interchangeable, Sally & Sarah, Sheila & Julia, > Mary & May, Peggy & Margaret, Peter & Patrick, Sean & John, John & Jack, > Edward & Edmund, Henry & Harry, Robin & Robert, Roy & Robert, Kathleen & > Catherine. (The famous Scottish poet Robert Burns was never known as Robert > to his friends. He was always Robin to them). It’s just something that > needs to be taken into account when searching Irish and Scottish records. > > > As far as Stevenson and Steenson is concerned, you might find it helpful > to think about how that name is pronounced and spoken here in Ulster. We > speak quickly with the emphasis on the first syllable. So Stevenson & > Steenson sound much the same. In the same way, McDowell is pronounced > Madole here, so leading to the alternative spelling. > > > Expect spelling to vary. That was the norm. No caste implications, just > the way we speak. > > > > > Elwyn > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, 12 September 2021, 19:16:33 BST, Katie Green via CoTyroneList < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Hello folks, > > I have long wondered how the name Stinson or Stenson came to be a version > of Stevenson and what the import of that fore-shortening was. (There are > Stinsons in my ancestry.) Was there caste implications involved? 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