Thanks again for more Stinson/ Stenson/ Stephenson information, Katie and William Johnston. I will have to do more research. It’s been a rough year for me. Issues with Computer and moving after 50 years. Keep up the good work on The Stinson’s and Devlin’s. Carol
> On Sep 13, 2021, at 10:30 AM, William Johnston via CoTyroneList > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > My interest if not research tasks have now doubled. > I have a James Johnston born in Tyrone about 1800. His wife was Sarah > Stinson. So now I have to see if Stevenson was used by her family. As far as > I have found, James & Sarah had 3 children between 1827-1841. James > Catherine & Ellen. I’m am also gathering titles and links for my research. > > >> On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 10:20 AM Katie Green via CoTyroneList >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> So interesting, thank you. Are you able to trace the generation before your >> Joseph Stinson? My Olivia Stinson, b. ca 1821, married one of the many Hugh >> Devlins in Ardboe,Tyrone in 1835 — yes, extremely young, and the ceremony >> was Protestant, he Catholic. Their first child was named Peter, which might >> help in tracing, but the child died soon, it would seem, since he did not >> come with them to Canada when they emigrated in 1839. >> >> Katie Green >> >>> On Sep 13, 2021, at 5:31 AM, Bruce Newport via CoTyroneList >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Last year I was researching the ancestry of Joseph Irvine STEPHENSON >>> (1878-1935) of Newtownstewart, Tyrone for a branch of my family. Despite >>> knowing he was from Fermanagh and the names of some of his siblings I found >>> no trace of his origins and had almost given up the search until I found a >>> single mention of the surname STINSON in connection with the family. Then >>> they all tumbled out of the records. >>> >>> Joseph STINSON (1844-1927) and his wife Elizabeth (nee WEIR) had a total of >>> 13 children at Agho, Fermanagh, 11 of whom were named STINSON on birth >>> registrations, 1 named STENSON and one record I was unable to find. The >>> children were: Letitia Elizabeth (1874), Harriet Jane (1875), James “Jim” >>> Henry (1877), Joseph Irvine (1878), Emily Katherine (1881), Bamford John >>> (1882), Charlie E (1884), Mary Alice “Lily” (1886), Annie Frances (1888), >>> Rebecca Susan (1890), Robert Edmund (1892), William Wallace (1892), George >>> Reginald (1897). >>> >>> The first record I found of anyone in the family being recorded as >>> STEPHENSON was the passenger list showing one of the girls returning from >>> New York to Liverpool in 1900. The following year the family at Agho were >>> all recorded as STEPHENSON in the 1901 census despite the last child having >>> been recorded as STINSON at birth only four years earlier. I found two more >>> records of children being recorded as STINSON in the early 1900’s on travel >>> documents but other than that, all later records I found have stated >>> STEPHENSON. >>> >>> Of the 13 children, the eldest son remained in Fermanagh, 3 children >>> relocated to Tyrone, 7 emigrated to the US, and the destiny of two is >>> unknown. >>> >>> The oldest surviving descendant of this line, born 1934 in Newtownstewart >>> and the source of all my original information about some of those 13 >>> children, told me she had never heard any reference to the name STINSON and >>> was quite shocked by the revelation. >>> >>> >>> From: Elwyn Soutter via CoTyroneList >>> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 4:34 AM >>> To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List >>> Cc: Elwyn Soutter >>> Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Stevenson, Stinson >>> >>> Katie, >>> >>> The idea of a single or correct spelling for a surname or a place name in >>> Ireland is very much a recent phenomenon designed to meet the needs of >>> modern officialdom. Before that there was no consistency. Names were >>> spelled phonetically and each variation was down to the whim of the >>> particular person recording the information. You will often see the >>> spelling change as the records go back. This rarely indicates a deliberate >>> decision to alter the name, nor even a mistake. Not everyone was literate, >>> but even when they were, exact and consistent spelling simply wasn’t >>> something they bothered about. In addition to varying the actual spelling, >>> O’ or Mac prefixes were optional and were often omitted. >>> >>> In 1899, the Rev Smith reviewed the early records of Antrim 1st >>> Presbyterian church (covering the years 1674 to c 1736). He noted: “Even >>> the same word is not always spelled alike by the same hand. Indeed spelling >>> with most of the recording officials (and they must have been fairly >>> numerous) was a matter of the most sublime indifference. The name William, >>> for instance, is spelled 3 different ways in as many lines; while Donegore, >>> a neighbouring parish, is spelled 10 different ways; but these extend over >>> a good number of years. Many families names are spelled phonetically, while >>> others are given in the most round-about fashion.” >>> >>> There are also many interchangeable names in Ireland and you can expect to >>> see either version feature in the same family. So it’s wise to search Irish >>> records using both versions. >>> >>> Examples of interchangeable surnames are: McDowell & Madole, Robertson & >>> Robinson, Kilpatrick and Kirkpatrick, Nogher & Connor, Patterson & >>> Pattison, Faulkner & Falconer, McConnell & McDonnell, Kerr & Carr, Stewart >>> & Stuart, McKinney & Mackenzie, plus obviously Stevenson & Steenson. >>> >>> Many forenames are also interchangeable eg Jean & Jane, Jenny & Janet, >>> Nancy, Agnes & Ann are all interchangeable, Sally & Sarah, Sheila & Julia, >>> Mary & May, Peggy & Margaret, Peter & Patrick, Sean & John, John & Jack, >>> Edward & Edmund, Henry & Harry, Robin & Robert, Roy & Robert, Kathleen & >>> Catherine. (The famous Scottish poet Robert Burns was never known as Robert >>> to his friends. He was always Robin to them). It’s just something that >>> needs to be taken into account when searching Irish and Scottish records. >>> >>> As far as Stevenson and Steenson is concerned, you might find it helpful to >>> think about how that name is pronounced and spoken here in Ulster. We speak >>> quickly with the emphasis on the first syllable. So Stevenson & Steenson >>> sound much the same. In the same way, McDowell is pronounced Madole here, >>> so leading to the alternative spelling. >>> >>> Expect spelling to vary. That was the norm. No caste implications, just the >>> way we speak. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Elwyn >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, 12 September 2021, 19:16:33 BST, Katie Green via CoTyroneList >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hello folks, >>> >>> I have long wondered how the name Stinson or Stenson came to be a version >>> of Stevenson and what the import of that fore-shortening was. (There are >>> Stinsons in my ancestry.) Was there caste implications involved? 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