Gee, can't believe our ancestors might have "cheated" a little to obtain a
pension!!

Jim McKane
Kitchener, Ontario


On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 8:57 AM Robert Forrest via CoTyroneList <
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>
> The discrepancy between ages (especially in the older age group) in the
> ten years between 1901 and 1911 can often be explained by the introduction
> of Old Age Pensions in 1908.
>
> The Old Age Pensions Act 1908 introduced a non-contributory pension for
> 'eligible' people aged 70 and over. It came into law in January 1909 across
> England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland.
>
> To be eligible, applicants had to have an income of less than £31 and
> 10shillings per annum (£31.50), and had to 'be of good character'.
>
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> We have noted such discrepancies in census ages repeated.  Does it show
> the distain they held for the census and authority, or is it simply that
> they did not pay much attention to birthdays back then? Or when the census
> man came to call, whover was in the house just guessed at everyone else's
> age? Back then it was the assessor who filled in the form, not the
> householder.  I can understand losing track of age as one grows older (I
> have to stop and think!). My mother was always 5 years out in her age, as
> she had lied to my father when they were courting - she was a widow with
> two children......
> Roger
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> Highly recommended.
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> On 5 Oct 2021, at 04:09, Gordon Wilkinson via CoTyroneList <
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> It was a typical Spring day on Friday ... blustery weather with occasional
> showers, when the eagerly awaited, long anticipated book arrived: Bill
> Roulston's *Researching Farming Ancestors in Ireland.* I'm already well
> into it now, but had barely started, when the author used his own family as
> an example when discussing Irish Censuses. Researchers, particularly new
> comers to genealogy, could be interested in his discussion of the census
> records of his great-great-grandfather. In brief ...
>
> In the 1901 return, the census shows his g-g-grandfather as an unmarried
> 30-year-old-farmer. Bill then goes on to caution the researcher to always
> treat ages with caution - even in census returns! Roulston's ancestor,
> Charles, was in fact 35 in 1901!
>
> Moving on to the 1911 census, Chaarles had married and his age in the
> Census was given as 50, when it should have been 45!! (He hadn't aged 20
> years in 10). His wife was suposedly aged 30, when in fact she was 33, so
> what appeared to be a 20-year age gap between them was in reality 13 years!
>
> (ref: para 2.3.2 Census Returns 1901-11; *Household Return (Form A),*
> p27-8)
>
> 'Nuf said.
>
> Enjoy, Gordon
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