Bill - to me that would go without saying or am I misunderstanding
something??


Jim McKane
Kitchener, Ontario


On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 7:58 AM Bill Young via CoTyroneList <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Jim
>
> Is it necessary to do more than post a list of subscribers with a few
> fields for names and places of interest?  By posting to the site, each
> would implicitly be agreeing to answer occasional direct enquiries, or
> perhaps to give access to a gedcom file.
>
> Best
>
> Bill
>
> Bill Young
> +41 76 391 6556 (WhatsApp & Signal)
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> *From:* AJ Staley via CoTyroneList <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 13, 2022 7:33:39 AM
> *To:* 'CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List' <
> [email protected]>; 'Gordon Wilkinson' <
> [email protected]>
> *Cc:* 'Gordon Wilkinson' <[email protected]>; 'M L Jarvis' <
> [email protected]>; AJ Staley <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Family Trees
>
>
> Shirley Harper, I have to agree with you.  If you use any information from
> Ancestry trees, please watch out for the documentation.  I never take
> anything for granted and always do my own research make sure that the
> information given is accurate.  If it exists at all.
>
>
>
> I also keep my own information on my own computer program (I use Legacy)
> and I have a research log file listing of all records for each person or
> family I research, where I have searched, and what I found if anything.
> Copies of all documents are scanned and put into files on the computer.
> Any pictures are identified and kept in an alphabetical file With name of
> person(s), date of Birth and/or date of picture, event,  if known, etc.
>
>
>
> ALL FILES are backed up each evening by two sources.  An external source
> and the cloud or trusted data service, and it is done automatically.  I
> also periodically make a back-up (at least twice a month) to send to my
> daughter to keep until I back up again for her.
>
>
>
> Research and redoing files and records takes a lot of extra time.  It is
> easier to retrieve the files from another source than to lose everything if
> your computer goes down.
>
>
>
> Anjeannette Staley
>
>
>
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> *From:* Shirley Harper via CoTyroneList <
> [email protected]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 12, 2022 8:43 PM
> *To:* CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List <
> [email protected]>; 'Gordon Wilkinson' <
> [email protected]>
> *Cc:* 'Gordon Wilkinson' <[email protected]>; M L Jarvis <
> [email protected]>; Shirley Harper <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Family Trees
>
>
>
> Please nobody rely on the “trees” you find on Ancestry.  Many of them are
> now fictitious because of people taking them for their own and adding their
> details in.  Some of the trees now there are a real mess.
>
> You could try Family Search www.familysearch.org/   for better
> information.
>
>
>
> Advice.  Do your own research!!
>
>
>
> Shirley
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows
>
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>
> *From: *M L Jarvis via CoTyroneList
> <[email protected]>
> *Sent: *Thursday, 13 January 2022 12:43 AM
> *To: *'CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List'
> <[email protected]>; 'Gordon Wilkinson'
> <[email protected]>
> *Cc: *'Gordon Wilkinson' <[email protected]>; M L Jarvis
> <[email protected]>
> *Subject: *[CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Family Trees
>
>
>
> Perhaps a page with a table that lists members who have trees, where the
> trees are located (Ancestry, etc.), and key surnames and locations is all
> that’s needed? Then individual members could be contacted directly.
>
>
>
> We could also list GEDmatch numbers.
>
>
>
> And, yes, I can help create the table!
>
>
>
> Mary
>
>
>
> PS Ancestry trees can’t be changed by others unless they have permission
> to do so by having been granted ownership.
>
>
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>
> *From:* James McKane via CoTyroneList <
> [email protected]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 12, 2022 5:22 AM
> *To:* Gordon Wilkinson <[email protected]>;
> CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* Gordon Wilkinson <[email protected]>; James McKane <
> [email protected]>
> *Subject:* [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Family Trees
>
>
>
> Gordon - first, it is easy to eliminate living people when creating a
> Gedcom with most software so that is not an issue.
>
>
>
> Bill - while it seems like a good idea, there are a few issues on my end
> which would have to be overcome -
>
>
>
> 1) currently advertising revenues on the website have been dropping
> dramatically!  It appears many users are using "ad blockers" to avoid
> seeing the advertisements. If this continues I'm not sure how we are going
> to cover ongoing expenses
>
> 2) to load Gedcoms we need to purchase software
>
> 3) we need the time to manage said software as I have experience in this
> area from a previous life......... it takes TIME
>
> 4) I would not wish to manage a "live" site where people can amend
> anything as it soon becomes so polluted ......... like FamilySearch and
> Ancestry trees are
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jim McKane
>
> Kitchener, Ontario
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 2:50 AM Gordon Wilkinson via CoTyroneList <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> An interesting idea, Bill, but my data base has info on so many living
> relatives and notes on many who value their privacy (DNA data, cupboard
> skeletons, &c), so I've actually shut down my family web site and only give
> the barest of information on the site now. Having said that, the most
> productive info has come from distant relatives who have found and
> contacted me through the the original website. Those inputs have been
> immeasurably valuable. I pondered the thought of stripping details from
> 'living' names, and editing the relevant pages, but the task got too big.
> I've got around 8,500 names covering the ancestry of my grandchildren and
> still more names to enter (proffered by one of those distant relatives.)
> when I get time.
>
> The original website still exists, of course, as a local entity (8Gb) and
> available only to select relatives.
>
> Gordon
>
> On 12/01/2022 7:37 am, Bill Young via CoTyroneList wrote:
>
> I have seen a number of mails on family tree research recently.
>
>
>
> Is there a move in this direction; and, if so, can we post family tree
> data to the site?  Provenance and accuracy are always going to be issues
> but it may be worth hosting current versions of members’ GEDCOM files on
> the understanding that they are the responsibility of the individuals who
> post them, not of CoTyroneIreland.
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> J W (Bill) Young
>
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