Just wondering if there is some confusion, perhaps you’re looking for OMAGH rather than ARMAGH?
> On Jul 11, 2022, at 3:23 PM, Elwyn Soutter via CoTyroneList > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Jacque, > > There’s nowhere in Tyrone called Armagh. > > Each workhouse (Poor Law Union) had a catchment area which, in general, was > the same as the later civil registration districts. The Poor Law catchment > areas often crossed county boundaries. In the case of the Armagh (city) most > of the townlands in that Poor Law Union were in Co Armagh, but there look to > be about 30 in Co Tyrone. When they were sorting the boundaries out, I assume > there was some system, and in this case it was decided to lump them in with > Armagh City. So persons in those 30 Tyrone townlands who needed indoor relief > from the workhouse went to Armagh City (and would therefore appear in their > records). > > Strabane has part of Co Donegal in its area, Irvinestown, Fermanagh, includes > a chunk of Tyrone too. And so on. > > Use this site if you want to establish which county, parish or Poor Law Union > a townland fell in. > > https://thecore.com/seanruad/ <https://thecore.com/seanruad/> > > > > > Elwyn > > > > > On Monday, 11 July 2022, 18:05:41 BST, Jacque Newman > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Elwyn, > > Just a quick question about workhouses. > > You wrote locations of workhouses in Tyrone in a previous email: > > In Tyrone: Armagh, Castlederg, Clogher, Cookstown, Dungannon, Enniskillen, > Gortin (closed around the late 1870s), Lowtherstown (renamed Irvinestown c > 1880), Omagh & Strabane. > > Was there a place in Tyrone called "Armagh" or did people on the border > travel to Co. Armagh to the workhouse? > > Jacque > > > On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 05:45:13 PM EDT, Katherine Quigley via > CoTyroneList <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Elwyn, > Thanks for your reply. In the death certificate, her name was spelled Quigly. > I should have mentioned that. > This is the link that I found: > > https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/28092:9903?tid=&pid=&queryId=448173c17d74feff67a20063094bf305&_phsrc=BCc1&_phstart=successSource > > <https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/28092:9903?tid=&pid=&queryId=448173c17d74feff67a20063094bf305&_phsrc=BCc1&_phstart=successSource> > Katherine > >> On Jul 10, 2022, at 3:39 PM, Elwyn Soutter <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> Katherine, >> Can you direct me to the source of that information? I might be able to tell >> you more if I have that. >> In the meantime, I can tell you that there were workhouses in Fermanagh in : >> Ballyshannon, Clones, Enniskillen & Lisnaskea. >> In Tyrone: Armagh, Castlederg, Clogher, Cookstown, Dungannon, Enniskillen, >> Gortin (closed around the late 1870s), Lowtherstown (renamed Irvinestown c >> 1880), Omagh & Strabane. >> Workhouse boundaries often crossed county boundaries and in the case of >> Tyrone & Fermanagh, both Enniskillen and Irvinestown (originally named >> Lowtherstown) cover parts of both Tyrone & Fermanagh. Which could lead to a >> "Tyrone & Fermanagh" reference. If you have no other clues they may be the 2 >> to start with. >> But if Ellen died in 1864, there should be a statutory death certificate for >> her. There was only 1 Ellen Quigley death in what is now Northern Ireland in >> 1864, and that was a child aged 0 who died in Londonderry on 9.1.1864. So >> I'd be keen to know the source of the information that says your Ellen died >> in 1864 in Tyrone/Fermanagh. >> >> >> Elwyn >> >> >> On Sunday, 10 July 2022, 22:08:31 BST, Katherine Quigley >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> I’m not sure. The record I saw is a death record that just says >> Death Place: County Fermanagh >> Death Place (Original): Work house, Counties Tyrone & Fermanagh, Ireland. >> It doesn’t specify beyond that. >> >>> On Jul 10, 2022, at 3:03 PM, Elwyn Soutter via CoTyroneList >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> If you tell us the townland where Ellen lived or died, we can direct you to >>> the workhouse for that location. All the surviving records for workhouses >>> in Tyrone (and Northern Ireland generally) are in PRONI in Belfast. They >>> are not on-line. So a personal visit is required to view them. Or you could >>> get a local researcher to do that for you. >>> >>> Once I know the townland, I’ll tell you what records PRONI have for the >>> relevant workhouse. >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, 10 July 2022, 21:42:06 BST, Katherine Quigley via CoTyroneList >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Does anyone have information on the workhouses that would have been in >>> Tyrone in the 1800’s? I found a record for an Ellen Quigley who died there >>> in 1864. She may be an ancestor, and I’m looking for more information. I am >>> not sure which location it would have been at, and I’m not sure where to >>> find it. 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