Don, Get Skyport SMK-46 which details the steps to convert a C to a D Note that this bulletin claims that conversion from a C75 to a C85 is NOT required although it is desirable.
However, converting a C75 to a C85 is very easy (and the C85 is type certified for a 415D) You need to change the carb venturi, change the dataplate and change the propeller (pitch) That's it. You should not worry about the engine too much. Many C75 have been converted to C85 because it is so easy. You want Continental Service Bulletin M47-16 (Page 11) which lists the parts required to make the conversion. Optionally you may want to also add the D type engine baffling around the oil tank (really lowers the summer oil temp but a bear to install) and the D type trim tab. David Abrams [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ercoupe.com ---------- From: Donald Kavalench[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 13, 1998 6:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: And so it continues... Thanks to everyone who responded to my distress call for parts. I now have a valuable source list for Ercoupe parts. Unfortunately, I have run into a couple of snags on my project. My AME has found some discrepencies in that the aircraft appears to have been at least partially converted to a 415 D, but there doesn't seem to be a paper trail to back it up. Swell I said. Also, given that it may well be a 415 D now, the engine I bought for it (an A-75) will not, according to my AME, work in there. Really swell. My AME is doing some more research and I'll keep you all informed on this saga as it progresses. Can anybody remind me why I'm doing this again?!?! Just kidding, of course. Thank you all again for your support. D.F. "Spike" Kavalench C-FJGW -----Original Message----- From: coupers-digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 9:59 AM Subject: coupers-digest V1 #65 > >coupers-digest Thursday, November 12 1998 Volume 01 : Number 065 > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 08:42:30 -0500 >From: David Abrams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Side Windows > >Well, > >I measured my old windows to get this value but my LP Aero Plastics >catalog (Catalog #195-P49) also shows the sliding window as "19 3/4 x 31 >3/16 x 0.60" I made mine a bit longer because I do not like air getting >in under the bottom when the window is up. > >My mechanic rebuit my windows a year ago but reused my old top frames >which were sharpened to a blade edge. They totally tore up my window >welt. Now that I have rebuilt them correctly I need to replace the welt >also. Since I do not have the drawings here I cannot check them but I >am sure if the drawings showed .050 I would have used that instead. I >will check tomorrow when I get to the hangar. > >The new ones are stiff but not too stiff to close. I rarely put my >windows up May-Oct so it is not a great problem for me. > >David > > ---------- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 8:34 AM > To: David Abrams > Subject: Re: Side Windows > > Dave, > > .060 is quite thick... Are not the originals much thinner ??? - >and more > flexible. > > It seems I used .050 ??? or somewhat thicker than original, and >found them > difficult to move in the tracks as they were so stiff. However, >I must admit, > the top edges were so worn, they act like a knife and tend to >cut through the > welting....(That is why I suggested to the fellow looking for >parts, to > either make new ones or purchase from Univair.... > Thanks for the details - I kept them for future reference. > > Regards, > > Harry > >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:42:44 -0800 >From: "ron miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [none] > >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > >- ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BE0BB4.89D1CF00 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >Is there anybody out there that knows where I could get blueprints or = >technical drawings of the ercoupe with all the specs and measurements on = >them. ( especially of the wing and center section) Any help would be = >greatly appreciated. Ron Miller > >- ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BE0BB4.89D1CF00 >Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> ><HTML> ><HEAD> > ><META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = >http-equiv=3DContent-Type> ><META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=3DGENERATOR> ></HEAD> ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff><FONT size=3D2>Is there anybody out there that = >knows where I=20 >could get blueprints or technical drawings of the ercoupe with all the = >specs and=20 >measurements on them. ( especially of the wing and center section) Any = >help=20 >would be greatly appreciated. Ron Miller</FONT></BODY></HTML> > >- ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BE0BB4.89D1CF00-- > >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:00:28 -0500 >From: David Abrams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: > >Ron > >I bought the original blueprints for the Ercoupe for about $35 from >Center for Archival Collections, Jerome Library, BGSU, Bowling Green OH >43403. The microfilm is poor quality and the parts are for the = >original >design so some prints are not up to date (for example, the side windows >do not include the bottom frame and stifener and the inside handle is >very different) but they helped me a lot in rebuilding my windows. > >It is also getting harder to find a good microfilm reader - my local >library does not seem to have cleaned the innards of their reader since >1966. > >Here is the info from when I ordered (I also got two films with all = >back >issues of 'Coupe Capers) > >Susan M. Hughes >Micrographics Specialist >Center for Archival Collections Preservation Lab >Bowling Green State University >12764 Levis Parkway >Perrysburg, Ohio 43551 >419/874-4128 or 419/372-2411 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >www.bgsu.edu/colleges/library/cac/cac.html > >Rolls 2 and 3 of the Coupe Capers is available on vesicular film for >$27.50 per roll, or silver film for $32.50 per roll. Because of the >nature of >the contents roll 1, which contains the engineering drawings, is >available >only on silver film for $32.50. Shipping and tax, if you are an Ohio >resident, are additional. Prepayment is required. > >I would recommend for the Coupe Capers that you >purchase the less expensive vesicular film. Silver film gives a bit >better >resolution on fine lines (hence the need to do the engineering drawings >on >silver film), but you will get an acceptable image from the printed >pages of >the Caper with the vesicular. Vesicular does not scratch as easily and >is >less expensive because the raw stock is cheaper. I cannot bring out >consistantly acceptable images on vesicular from the engineering >drawings, as >the lines can be quite fine, so we only offer that roll on silver. =20 >Shipping costs for the 3 rolls is $5.00. We are not set up to accept >credit >cards; please send a check or money order payable to the Center for >Archival >Collections to: Center for Archival Collections, Fifth Floor, Jerome >Library, >Bowling Green, OH 43403, Attn: Susan Hughes. =20 >Thank you again and please do hesitate to contact me if you have any >questions. > > >David Abrams >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.ercoupe.com > > > ---------- > From: ron miller[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 10:42 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Is there anybody out there that knows where I could get >blueprints or technical drawings of the ercoupe with all the specs and >measurements on them. ( especially of the wing and center section) Any >help would be greatly appreciated.=A0 Ron Miller > >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:20:21 -0500 >From: "DoyleLawson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: AOPA > >Keith where is the AOPA article at !!! > > >- -----Original Message----- >From: Keith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 12:27 PM >Subject: Coupe of the Month > > >>Check out Jim Palmer's "Coupe of the Month" at: >> >>http://www.pacifier.com/~keithb >> >>Reminder, the AOPA article will be available for downloading on Sunday, >>November 8th, same site. >> > >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 20:24:02 -0500 >From: "rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Ideas > >Keith >The vacuum hoses on my coupe were also absolutely very difficult to remove. >Turned out to be old age. The hose material had dried out and was very >hard. I cut them off and replaced all of the hoses. Lots of laying on your >back with your arms above your head. >Richard >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:06:56 -0500 >From: LAS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Looking for a copy of "From the Ground Up" > >Hi, > >I'm looking for a copy of Fred Weick's book, "From the Ground Up". If >you know where I can get a copy please let me know. > >Thanks. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:23:46 -0600 >From: J Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Looking for a copy of "From the Ground Up" > >Try Historic Aviation Books, 1401 Kingswood Road, Eagan, Minn, 55122, >1-800-225-5575. > >If they don't have it try one of the following: > >Aviation Book Company, 25133 Anza Drive, Santa Clarita, CA 91355, >1-800-423-2708. > >Zenith Books, PO Box 1, Osceola WI 54020-0001, 1-800-826-6600. > >LAS wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'm looking for a copy of Fred Weick's book, "From the Ground Up". If >> you know where I can get a copy please let me know. >> >> Thanks. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:12:56 -0500 >From: "Brian Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: The Ercoupe and disabled pilots > >I do not know of this modification so I will forward this to the coupe >group, I will then forward the outcome to you. good luck >Brian Bailey >http://www.ercoupe.net > >- -----Original Message----- >From: CARL GABBERT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 8:12 PM >Subject: The Ercoupe and disabled pilots > > >I am considering a purchase of an Ercoupe. The problem is the passenger I >would be carrying is disabled and the Ercoupe is difficult for such a person >to enter due to the high lift required on the side. We talked to an Ercoupe >owner who advised that several disabled pilots fly Ercoupes and some >Ercoupes have been modified in the past with a door cut in the side. As this >sounded a little far fetched, we hoped there might have some information >either about the door issue or some idea as to how a disabled person might >easily enter an Ercoupe. >As this is the deciding issue as to the purchase of an Ercoupe, an answer is >eagerly awaited.A message from any disabled pilot would be appreciated. > >> > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:40:42 -0600 >From: Mi Vida Loca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: revised ICAO four-character designator > >Beginning November 5, FAA will be encouraging you to use the revised ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organization) four-character designator in the "Aircraft Type" section of your flight plan. And by January 28, 1999 you must use the new code. For the Coupe, all models (Erco, Forney, Alon, Mooney), use ERCO > > > ><color><param>ffff,0000,0000</param>Dave > >41 Charlie > > Dave's Ercoupe Page > > www.flash.net/~dmprosvc/dave > > ICQ # 1388138 > ></color>http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1388138#contactingme > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 20:46:14 -0800 (PST) >From: Percy Pwood Georgia Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: revised ICAO four-character designator > >Thanx, Dave. > For the heads up on the new aircraft type. Didn't it used to be F9, >or something equally obscure? ERCO works for me and 29H (when she's >outa annual, of course ... ) > Percy > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:11:59 EST >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: My Ercoupe Starter > >My starter has been rather slow turning the engine over ever since I bought >the coupe a year ago. Charging the battery doesn't improve the turn over >speed significantly. But it starts so easy when it turns over that it was >never a problem. Now, it has gotten worse and seems to chatter like the >clutch is slipping or a gear slipping. My service manual refers to Ercoupe >Service Memorandum No. 40 regarding control lever and pinion travel. Can >someone enlighten me about Service Memo # 40. And any advice about starter >problems will be much appreciated. Wayne Hannah N3544H model CD, serial 4169. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 05:16:59 -0600 >From: Mi Vida Loca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: The Ercoupe and disabled pilots > >At 09:12 PM 11/10/98 -0500, you wrote: > >>I do not know of this modification so I will forward this to the coupe > >>group, I will then forward the outcome to you. good luck > >>Brian Bailey > >>http://www.ercoupe.net > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: CARL GABBERT <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 8:12 PM > >>Subject: The Ercoupe and disabled pilots > >> > >> > >>I am considering a purchase of an Ercoupe. The problem is the passenger I > >>would be carrying is disabled and the Ercoupe is difficult for such a person > >>to enter due to the high lift required on the side. We talked to an Ercoupe > >>owner who advised that several disabled pilots fly Ercoupes and some > >>Ercoupes have been modified in the past with a door cut in the side. As this > >>sounded a little far fetched, we hoped there might have some information > >>either about the door issue or some idea as to how a disabled person might > >>easily enter an Ercoupe. > >>As this is the deciding issue as to the purchase of an Ercoupe, an answer is > >>eagerly awaited.A message from any disabled pilot would be appreciated. > >> > >I would suggest you contact Mark Hardin at TERRELL MUNI AIRPORT > >(www.airnav.com/cgi-bin/airport-info?TRL). He has or had a Coupe with the side door sitting in his hanger. His E-Mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Terrell Aviation > >3 Silent Wings Blvd. > >Terrell, TX 75160 > > >Phone: (972)524-1601 or (972)563-2552 > >Fax: (972)563-5304 > > > > > ><color><param>ffff,0000,0000</param>Dave > >41 Charlie > > Dave's Ercoupe Page > > www.flash.net/~dmprosvc/dave > > ICQ # 1388138 > ></color>http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1388138#contactingme > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 05:53:02 -0600 >From: Bob Urban <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: revised ICAO four-character designator > >You mean there have been other choices for the last year or two? > >I've been using DUATS and Cirrus software for my weather briefings. >Never have I found any other code to work in the data base for the >Coupe. > >Bob Urban >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >Mi Vida Loca wrote: >> >> Beginning November 5, FAA will be encouraging you to use the revised ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organization) four-character designator in the "Aircraft Type" section of your flight plan. And by January 28, 1999 you must use the new code. For the Coupe, all models (Erco, Forney, Alon, Mooney), use ERCO >> >> Dave >> 41 Charlie >> Dave's Ercoupe Page >> www.flash.net/~dmprosvc/dave >> ICQ # 1388138 >> http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1388138#contactingme > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 05:53:26 -0600 >From: Bob Urban <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: revised ICAO four-character designator > >You mean there have been other choices for the last year or two? > >I've been using DUATS and Cirrus software for my weather briefings. >Never have I found any other code to work in the data base for the >Coupe. > >Bob Urban >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >Mi Vida Loca wrote: >> >> Beginning November 5, FAA will be encouraging you to use the revised ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organization) four-character designator in the "Aircraft Type" section of your flight plan. And by January 28, 1999 you must use the new code. For the Coupe, all models (Erco, Forney, Alon, Mooney), use ERCO > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:30:17 -0500 >From: Greg Bullough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: My Ercoupe Starter > >Wayne: > >This is kind of like a car situation with same symptoms. > >One possible scenario: > >Your primary or ground connections between starter and >battery are bad. That explains a slow 'turnover' and >when things get worse the 'chattering' as not enough >amperage is getting to the Bendix to engage things. >Both the symptoms suggest 'not enough amps to the starter' >or really 'too big a voltage drop across a high-resistance >connection.' > >Left to its own devices, this can eventually fry a >starter, because low amps going through a motor that >can't turn is worse than high amps going through a >motor that is dissapating as rotational energy all the >power that goes in. > >Actually, this can be a 'wake up call' of sorts. Hard >starting is often a symptom of a problem which, left >unfixed, will lead to a total electrical failure as >a battery lead or connection finally falls off. It's >just that under the high amperage load of cranking, >things show a symptom earlier. > >Don't be fooled by 'it looks' okay, either. Corrosion >loves to seep in between the copper wire and the connector >on the end of it. The cable can look beautiful. Look at the >cable end under a magnifying glass. If you see any green >or white powder near where the cable goes into the connector, >figger that there's a whole load of it where you can't see. >Cable manufacturers love to use one kind of metal for the >cable and another for the connector. Strewth. If the cables >are more than a few years old, or if you live in a damp >place, that's very likely. > >So, before doing anything else, I'd make darn sure that the >cables and connections really are solid and firm. Even if you >need more radical surgery on the starting system, this step >will have to be taken. > >Okay, suppose all the cables are checked and good. The thing >still turns over slowly and/or chatters. Usually that's things >related to age. Starter brushes wear out, the commutator gets >covered in gunk, and power doesn't get to the motor very well. >The engagement mechanism wears, gets out of alignment, maybe >loses some of the tooth surface on the gears, etc. That's why >starters have to be 'rebuilt' every so often. Yours may be >one of those that's just tired. If it's getting enough food >(i.e. power) and is still cranky, it's probably time for a >rebuilt. > >Greg > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> My starter has been rather slow turning the engine over ever since I bought >> the coupe a year ago. Charging the battery doesn't improve the turn over >> speed significantly. But it starts so easy when it turns over that it was >> never a problem. Now, it has gotten worse and seems to chatter like the >> clutch is slipping or a gear slipping. My service manual refers to Ercoupe >> Service Memorandum No. 40 regarding control lever and pinion travel. Can >> someone enlighten me about Service Memo # 40. And any advice about starter >> problems will be much appreciated. Wayne Hannah N3544H model CD, serial 4169. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:36:02 -0500 >From: David Abrams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: revised ICAO four-character designator > >It was F02 (Foxtrot-Zero-Two) previously - my guess is because it was >assigned when Forney was building Coupes > >David Abrams >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://ercoupe.com > > > ---------- > From: Percy Pwood Georgia Wood[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 11:46 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: revised ICAO four-character designator > > Thanx, Dave. > For the heads up on the new aircraft type. Didn't it used to >be F9, > or something equally obscure? ERCO works for me and 29H (when >she's > outa annual, of course ... ) > Percy > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:43:35 EST >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: New Identifier > > I can remember useing F02 on flight plans over 20 years ago but ERCO >sounds much better. I LIKE IT! >kim >NC > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:20:05 -0800 >From: Steve Dold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: My Ercoupe Starter > >Wayne said: > >>My starter has been rather slow turning the engine over ever since I bought >>the coupe a year ago. Charging the battery doesn't improve the turn over >>speed significantly. But it starts so easy when it turns over that it was >>never a problem. Now, it has gotten worse and seems to chatter like the >>clutch is slipping or a gear slipping. My service manual refers to Ercoupe >>Service Memorandum No. 40 regarding control lever and pinion travel. Can >>someone enlighten me about Service Memo # 40. And any advice about starter >>problems will be much appreciated. Wayne Hannah N3544H model CD, serial >4169. > >Wayne, while you're checking all the other cables people will tell you to >check, >make sure the engine is grounded, probably with a wide braided cable, to the >mount. If this isn't done, all the current has to flow by other means, like >through the throttle and carb heat cable, primer line, etc. > >It's happened before, sometimes the pilot will notice that the throttle >control is hot, from the current. > >- --Steve > >- ------------------------------- >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Say NO to useless over-quoting >- ------------------------------- > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:26:20 -0500 >From: "DoyleLawson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: My Ercoupe Starter > >Will e-mail you a copy of memo 40 >If you can't view JPG let me know >and I will send some other way > >- -----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 12:13 AM >Subject: My Ercoupe Starter > > >>My starter has been rather slow turning the engine over ever since I bought >>the coupe a year ago. Charging the battery doesn't improve the turn over >>speed significantly. But it starts so easy when it turns over that it was >>never a problem. Now, it has gotten worse and seems to chatter like the >>clutch is slipping or a gear slipping. My service manual refers to Ercoupe >>Service Memorandum No. 40 regarding control lever and pinion travel. Can >>someone enlighten me about Service Memo # 40. And any advice about starter >>problems will be much appreciated. Wayne Hannah N3544H model CD, serial >4169. >> > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:11:01 EST >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Ercoupe help! > >Wow! I'm impressed and grateful to all you guys out there anxious to help a >fellow Ercoupe owner. My starter problem is still waiting for me out at that >cold hanger. But I'll get to it and report back. Thanks to all of you again. >Wayne Hannah, Shelton, Wash. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:53:46 -0600 >From: Kenneth N6543q Dede Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: KX-150B Nav/Com radio > >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > >- ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01BE0D8B.77285620 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >I have the original boat anchor radio that came in our coupe from the = >factory. It's no longer approved for use but I'd like to get it running = >just for nostalga purposes. Does anyone out there know where I can get = >my hands on the shop manual for it? I haven't tested all the tubes on a = >tester yet but all the filiments are good. If anyone has any = >suggestions, please let me know. > >Thanks >Ken and Dede Anderson >Alon N6543Q >Norman, Oklahoma > >- ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01BE0D8B.77285620 >Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> ><HTML> ><HEAD> > ><META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = >http-equiv=3DContent-Type> ><META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=3DGENERATOR> ></HEAD> ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> ><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I have the original boat anchor = >radio that came=20 >in our coupe from the factory. It's no longer approved for use but = >I'd=20 >like to get it running just for nostalga purposes. Does anyone out = >there=20 >know where I can get my hands on the shop manual for it? I haven't = >tested=20 >all the tubes on a tester yet but all the filiments are good. If = >anyone=20 >has any suggestions, please let me know.</FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> ><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Thanks</FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Ken and Dede Anderson</FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Alon N6543Q</FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Norman, = >Oklahoma</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> > >- ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01BE0D8B.77285620-- > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:02:53 -0600 >From: Kenneth N6543q Dede Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Shoulder harness STC for Alon Aircoupe > >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > >- ------=_NextPart_000_0063_01BE0D8C.BDB08F80 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >My wife and I have a 1966 A-2 Alon, and we want to put shoulder = >harnesses in it. Does anyone out there know where I can find a good STC = >to do so? If so please let me know. > >Thanks >Ken and Dede Anderson >N6543Q >Norman, Oklahoma > >- ------=_NextPart_000_0063_01BE0D8C.BDB08F80 >Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> ><HTML> ><HEAD> > ><META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = >http-equiv=3DContent-Type> ><META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=3DGENERATOR> ></HEAD> ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> ><DIV><EM><FONT size=3D2>My wife and I have a 1966 A-2 Alon, and we want = >to put=20 >shoulder harnesses in it. Does anyone out there know where I can = >find a=20 >good STC to do so? If so please let me know.</FONT></EM></DIV> ><DIV><EM><FONT size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV> ><DIV><EM><FONT size=3D2>Thanks</FONT></EM></DIV> ><DIV><EM><FONT size=3D2>Ken and Dede Anderson</FONT></EM></DIV> ><DIV><EM><FONT size=3D2>N6543Q</FONT></EM></DIV> ><DIV><EM><FONT size=3D2>Norman, Oklahoma</FONT></EM></DIV></BODY></HTML> > >- ------=_NextPart_000_0063_01BE0D8C.BDB08F80-- > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:49:08 -0600 >From: "Donald Kavalench" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: And so it begins > >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > >- ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE0D93.33533FC0 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >First of all, I would like to thank everybody for their contributions to = >the mailing list over the last year, there was some valuable information = >in there which greatly assisted me. After much searching, (internet, = >newspapers, magazines and my soul) I have found and purchased an Ercoupe = >restoration project. It's a 1946 415C SN 1239. My son and I loaded her = >onto a snowmobile trailer and hauled her 3 hours to the shop. With any = >luck, my AME will have her flying by the time the snow melts up here in = >the great white north. =20 > >The biggest problem (so far) is in the right wing - we need at least 3 = >nose ribs and one wing tip bow - there was substantial corrosion damage = >due to those dang mice, messy mini rats that they are. I know Univair = >has them (the parts, not sure on the mice) but I also know what they're = >asking for that flimsy piece of aluminum shaped like a big banana. = >(Nuts!) If there is anyone out there who can help I'd appreciate any = >suggestions. Surely somewhere there is a great Ercoupe boneyard.... >Thanks again, >Spike Kavalench > >- ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE0D93.33533FC0 >Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> ><HTML> ><HEAD> > ><META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = >http-equiv=3DContent-Type> ><META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=3DGENERATOR> ></HEAD> ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> ><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>First of all, I would like to thank = >everybody=20 >for their contributions to the mailing list over the last year, there = >was some=20 >valuable information in there which greatly assisted me. After = >much=20 >searching, (internet, newspapers, magazines and my soul) I have found = >and=20 >purchased an Ercoupe restoration project. It's a 1946 415C SN = >1239. My son=20 >and I loaded her onto a snowmobile trailer and hauled her 3 hours to the = > >shop. With any luck, my AME will have her flying by the time the = >snow=20 >melts up here in the great white north. </FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> ><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>The biggest problem (so far) is in = >the right=20 >wing - we need at least 3 nose ribs and one wing tip bow - there was = >substantial=20 >corrosion damage due to those dang mice, messy mini rats that they = >are. I=20 >know Univair has them (the parts, not sure on the mice) but I also know = >what=20 >they're asking for that flimsy piece of aluminum shaped like a big = >banana. =20 >(Nuts!) If there is anyone out there who can help I'd appreciate = >any=20 >suggestions. Surely somewhere there is a great Ercoupe=20 >boneyard....</FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks again,</FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2>Spike Kavalench</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> > >- ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE0D93.33533FC0-- > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:12:19 -0600 >From: Ed Burkhead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Shoulder harness STC for Alon Aircoupe > >If you are a member of the Ercoupe Owners Club, write to Skip Carden >(address in each Coupe Capers) and he'll send you photocopies of the >form 337s (?is that the right form number??) and STCs the club has on >file. > > >Kenneth N6543q Dede Anderson wrote: >> >> My wife and I have a 1966 A-2 Alon, and we want to put shoulder >> harnesses in it. Does anyone out there know where I can find a good >> STC to do so? If so please let me know. >> >> Thanks >> Ken and Dede Anderson >> N6543Q >> Norman, Oklahoma > >- -- >Ed Burkhead >East Peoria, Ill. >N3802H, 415-D > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:17:56 -0600 >From: Ed Burkhead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Disabled passenger > >Can you describe the disability and the passenger more? > >i.e. can't use legs but arms are good? Quadraplegic? Mobile but can't >easily get over the window sill? Weights 90 lbs? Weighs 270 lbs? > >I know one person who had polio and is now getting the long-time-later >polio syndrome where he's losing the use of his legs. I think he >mentioned taking a folding stool up onto the wing, sitting on it, then >swinging his legs into the cockpit. > >I have seen photos of the side door modification. If you're a member, >check with Skip at the Ercoupe Owners Club. >- -- >Ed Burkhead >East Peoria, Ill. >N3802H, 415-D > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:44:30 -0800 >From: David & Carolyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Shoulder harness STC for Alon Aircoupe > >Ken: > >I have been looking for a way to put shoulder harnesses in my Alon as well. = >=20 > >++ Problem #1 is that there is no STCed installation. Therefore, you must= > come >up with a field solution which will pass FAA muster via a 337. =20 > >++ Problem #2 is that there is no place other than the skin to attach belts >which meets the methods shown in AC 43-11. There just aren't any structural >members at the top of the fuselage. Some type of doubler plate (with lots= > of >rivets) outside the skin is needed for adequate strength. > >Some of the 337 form drawings (with which others obtained approval) I= > procured >look absolutely dangerous to me. My IA said he would not sign them off in= > my >plane and he is sure the local (San Jose) FAA would not sign them off= > either. I >won't put something on my plane which only looks good, but has an incorrect >belt angle or won't stand as much force as the seat belt system does. > >The 337 copy that looked like a real neat idea used a welded stainless steel >interior plate and an eyebolt to secure the belt ends. On the outside of= > the >skin, they used hardware-store metal handles as backup plates which also= > serve >as boarding handles. The only problem with this setup is that there are= > only >four small bolts plus a pretty small area on the handle to secure the= > interior >plate to the skin. I'm thinking of either machining a special handle or >mounting a doubler plate under the handle on the exterior and securing it >(through the skin) to the inner plate with lots of rivets; if it's shiny >stainless steel, it may not look too bad. > >Has anyone out there seen any installations which: >++ mount the belt at the correct angle >++ follow AC 43-11 >++ and also look good? > > >"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" >David Smoler | __ | > |=3D=3D/__=A4_\=3D=3D| > *=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D|=3D=3D| () |=3D=3D|=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= >=3D=3D=3D=3D* >Alon A-2 | \____/ | N6359V >s/n A35 () () () based at RHV >"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" > > > > >At 04:02 PM 11/11/98 -0600, Kenneth N6543q Dede Anderson wrote:=20 >> >> My wife and I have a 1966 A-2 Alon, and we want to put shoulder harnesses= > in >> it. Does anyone out there know where I can find a good STC to do so? If= > so >> please let me know. >> =20 >> Thanks >> Ken and Dede Anderson >> N6543Q >> Norman, Oklahoma > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 07:41:40 -0500 >From: Jack Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: And so it begins > >Donald: > >I don't know if he will sell parts, but: > >Stanley Jennings >2123 S Third >Tucumcary, NM 88401 >505-461-1161 > >He does complete Ercoupe restoring. I've talked >to a couple of people you have seen his operations >and flown his planes. He has a lot of coupes. >He maybe able to help or know a supplier. > >Anyone in his area that wants to see some great coupes, >I understand that these are perfect in every way. >Like a coupe show place. > >Jack >99069 > > >At 04:49 PM 11/11/98 -0600, you wrote: >>First of all, I would like to thank everybody for their contributions to >the mailing list over the last year, there was some valuable information in >there which greatly assisted me. After much searching, (internet, >newspapers, magazines and my soul) I have found and purchased an Ercoupe >restoration project. It's a 1946 415C SN 1239. My son and I loaded her onto >a snowmobile trailer and hauled her 3 hours to the shop. With any luck, my >AME will have her flying by the time the snow melts up here in the great >white north. >> >>The biggest problem (so far) is in the right wing - we need at least 3 nose >ribs and one wing tip bow - there was substantial corrosion damage due to >those dang mice, messy mini rats that they are. I know Univair has them >(the parts, not sure on the mice) but I also know what they're asking for >that flimsy piece of aluminum shaped like a big banana. (Nuts!) If there >is anyone out there who can help I'd appreciate any suggestions. Surely >somewhere there is a great Ercoupe boneyard.... >>Thanks again, >>Spike Kavalench >><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> >><HTML> >><HEAD> >> >><META content=text/html;charset=iso-8859-1 http-equiv=Content-Type> >><META content='"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=GENERATOR> >></HEAD> >><BODY bgColor=#ffffff> >><DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>First of all, I would like to thank everybody >>for their contributions to the mailing list over the last year, there was some >>valuable information in there which greatly assisted me. After much >>searching, (internet, newspapers, magazines and my soul) I have found and >>purchased an Ercoupe restoration project. It's a 1946 415C SN 1239. >My son >>and I loaded her onto a snowmobile trailer and hauled her 3 hours to the >>shop. With any luck, my AME will have her flying by the time the snow >>melts up here in the great white north. </FONT></DIV> >><DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV> >><DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>The biggest problem (so far) is in the right >>wing - we need at least 3 nose ribs and one wing tip bow - there was >substantial >>corrosion damage due to those dang mice, messy mini rats that they >are. I >>know Univair has them (the parts, not sure on the mice) but I also know what >>they're asking for that flimsy piece of aluminum shaped like a big >banana. >>(Nuts!) If there is anyone out there who can help I'd appreciate any >>suggestions. Surely somewhere there is a great Ercoupe >>boneyard....</FONT></DIV> >><DIV><FONT size=2>Thanks again,</FONT></DIV> >><DIV><FONT size=2>Spike Kavalench</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> >> > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 07:39:28 -0700 >From: "Jim McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: And so it begins > >Skyport, in Wisconsin, has a huge barn full of used 'Coupe parts. I've been >in there with Lee and it is amazing. They have most everything. The >trouble is you have to search around to find what you need. It would be >worth giving Lee Gaugler a call at Skyport in Rochester, WI @ 1-800-624-5312 >- -----Original Message----- >From: Jack Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Donald Kavalench <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 5:45 AM >Subject: Re: And so it begins > > >>Donald: >> >>I don't know if he will sell parts, but: >> >>Stanley Jennings >>2123 S Third >>Tucumcary, NM 88401 >>505-461-1161 >> >>He does complete Ercoupe restoring. I've talked >>to a couple of people you have seen his operations >>and flown his planes. He has a lot of coupes. >>He maybe able to help or know a supplier. >> >>Anyone in his area that wants to see some great coupes, >>I understand that these are perfect in every way. >>Like a coupe show place. >> >>Jack >>99069 >> >> >>At 04:49 PM 11/11/98 -0600, you wrote: >>>First of all, I would like to thank everybody for their contributions to >>the mailing list over the last year, there was some valuable information in >>there which greatly assisted me. After much searching, (internet, >>newspapers, magazines and my soul) I have found and purchased an Ercoupe >>restoration project. It's a 1946 415C SN 1239. My son and I loaded her >onto >>a snowmobile trailer and hauled her 3 hours to the shop. With any luck, my >>AME will have her flying by the time the snow melts up here in the great >>white north. >>> >>>The biggest problem (so far) is in the right wing - we need at least 3 >nose >>ribs and one wing tip bow - there was substantial corrosion damage due to >>those dang mice, messy mini rats that they are. I know Univair has them >>(the parts, not sure on the mice) but I also know what they're asking for >>that flimsy piece of aluminum shaped like a big banana. (Nuts!) If there >>is anyone out there who can help I'd appreciate any suggestions. Surely >>somewhere there is a great Ercoupe boneyard.... >>>Thanks again, >>>Spike Kavalench >>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> >>><HTML> >>><HEAD> >>> >>><META content=text/html;charset=iso-8859-1 http-equiv=Content-Type> >>><META content='"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=GENERATOR> >>></HEAD> >>><BODY bgColor=#ffffff> >>><DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>First of all, I would like to thank >everybody >>>for their contributions to the mailing list over the last year, there was >some >>>valuable information in there which greatly assisted me. After much >>>searching, (internet, newspapers, magazines and my soul) I have found and >>>purchased an Ercoupe restoration project. It's a 1946 415C SN 1239. >>My son >>>and I loaded her onto a snowmobile trailer and hauled her 3 hours to the >>>shop. With any luck, my AME will have her flying by the time the >snow >>>melts up here in the great white north. </FONT></DIV> >>><DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV> >>><DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>The biggest problem (so far) is in the >right >>>wing - we need at least 3 nose ribs and one wing tip bow - there was >>substantial >>>corrosion damage due to those dang mice, messy mini rats that they >>are. I >>>know Univair has them (the parts, not sure on the mice) but I also know >what >>>they're asking for that flimsy piece of aluminum shaped like a big >>banana. >>>(Nuts!) If there is anyone out there who can help I'd appreciate any >>>suggestions. Surely somewhere there is a great Ercoupe >>>boneyard....</FONT></DIV> >>><DIV><FONT size=2>Thanks again,</FONT></DIV> >>><DIV><FONT size=2>Spike Kavalench</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> >>> > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 10:59:24 -0600 >From: Leslie Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Rudder Question > >Hi! I'm new to the group and have a question. I flew an Archer to the >fly in Ercoupe breakfast at Morris, Illinois a few weeks ago. After >taking a ride I found myself lusting for Ercoupes ever since!The Archer >now feels like a Chevy station wagon to me. > >My question is regarding (of course) the rudder. I really, REALLY like >to have the rudder pedals connected to the nose wheel. I understand the >Alon, Mooney, and possibly Fourney variants had this. Is there an STC or >337 procedure for retrofitting this on the 415c/cd/d? >- -- >Leslie M. Watts >ITW Advanced Technology Group >(847)657-4559 >http://www.netcom.com/~leswatts/leswp.html > >------------------------------ > >End of coupers-digest V1 #65 >**************************** >
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