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Hello all,

In my view and experience, the procedure below is a formula for
disaster and will eventually get somebody killed.

I don't even fly my Coupe at 60 MPH in a straight line close to the
ground PERIOD, much less banking left and right 20-40 degrees too!
Most GA fatalities (including gliders) happen during the base/final
phase of landing...... too low/too slow and maybe uncoordinated.

If the air is turbulent and gusty, kiss your butt goodbye if your
Coupe flies anything like mine! Better fly 1.3 to 1.4 times stall
on final in a straight line if there is a fond desire to grow old!

Spot landings cannot be achieved reliably by gyrating all over the
sky while varying airspeed all over the place to boot!

A key to knowing where your plane is going to land is to pick a speed
that is safe and do not vary it at all! Then you have a controlled
environment that affords you a reasonable chance to gauge your
progress towards a PREDICTABLE touchdown.

A 3 degree descent on approach in my Coupe using VASI is 1700 RPM
and 75 MPH. Easy on the nerves and very safe.
Touchdown point is guaranteed! ;+)

I practice power off landings extensively in the Coupe. There seems to
be no short cut to get good at it even after 46 years of experience for
me. A Tri-Pacer/Pacer gives results similar to the Coupe.

Normal patterns where I fly are 800' AGL. Entering at 1000' can have you
descending on top of an a/c already in the pattern at 800'. Why give up
any margin of safety.

My Coupe has Goodyear brakes. Goodyear parts are very expensive.
I treat them with great care. Don't want to break my brakes!
In fact, my goal is not to use them at all.  With good planning very
little braking is ever called for.

The name of the game is........ FINESSE.

My background?
CFI, ASMEL, Commercial, instrument, retired AG & charter pilot

Regards,
Bob Urban - Ercoupe 415-C N99784
            Schreder HP14 glider

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> ******** How I practice for this situation
>
> I enter the pattern at 1000' AGL,  on down wind I reduce power to 2000
rpm,
> and look for 80 mph.  carry this power and airspeed to final and you
will
be
> high and fast.  DO NOT STALL the aircraft but reduce power to idle and
pull
> the nose up to slow to 60mph, now I start to S turn using 20-40 degrees
to
> left and right, WATCH THE AIR SPEED!!! DO NOT allow
> it to go below 60mph.... You will find that these S turns will increase
you
> decent just like a slip, and you will dissipate more energy.  At about
> 150-200 ft above the "arrival" spot  you should level the wing, lower
the
> nose and increase Airspeed to 70mph (I have a D model) stand on the
breaks
> and land normally. (if this were real I might slow to 60 BUT NO MORE).
Yes
> the order is correct STAND on the breaks and put the aircraft on the
ground,
>
> ***********End Owners View

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