Daniel Cathey wrote: > > Greg, > Been flying off (sometimes soft & water covered) grass 1750' field here in > Oregon. On a C or D > model, I use the wheel in the chest technique: that is pull the wheel all > the way back, give full power, steer down the runway - when the nose wheel > lifts, the plane is in the air, lower the nose until you get to 55 and then > continue your climb out. This usually takes from 550 to 700' regardless of > whether it is a 75 or 85hp. No problem. This is the way the book says to > do short field takeoffs and it works. Only done it in about 15mph > crosswind, but never have > had any problem. > > This won't work on the E model or one of the earlier models with the split > tail. Too much elevator up travel. With 2735H which had the the split tail > and an O200 I just held neutral wheel until It indicated 55 and then pulled > it off - the nose wheel and rudders give good control until liftoff. Still > took between 550 and 700' to lift off. > > So don't worry about ground handling; would rather be in a coupe than any > other plane I've flown when landing or taking off. > > As to coming in high, there is a certain position you can get the coupe in > doing S turns that is in reality a very good slip. Lay it over at about 45 > to 55 degrees at about 55 or so and you will be amazed at how it will fall. > I have come in at 1000' agl turning final and within about two to three of > the so called S turns holding it in this configuration have actually had to > apply power to get to the numbers. Here again, it's something the coupe > does well. As to going around, I can't remember ever having done that. > > Get one, fly it and I guarantee you will be impressed with what it can do. > I now have and fly a Stinson, a Volmer amphibian and an Avid Amphibian, but > in heavy winds down or across the runway I always think how much easier it > is to land and takeoff (reverse order - usually) in the coupes I have owned. > (and will ;probably own again) > > Dan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Greg Bullough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, August 16, 1999 5:22 PM > Subject: Techniques > > > As I might soon become a real couper, a couple of handling/technique > questions > > have been nagging me: > > > > 1. Soft field - the soft field discussion made me wonder; normally in a > > tricycle > > gear plane, for a soft field take off you lift the nose wheel ASAP, > > and steer > > with rudders. In a Coupe, there isn't a whole ton of rudder, but do > > you still > > do the same thing? If so, is there enough rudder oomph to stay > straight > > as soon as the nose can be raised? > > > > 2. Landing: no flaps, no slips. Okay, what if you're too high? I know, > > go around. > > Okay, but suppose you REALLY need to land this time because the fan > > stopped > > on downwind? S-turns down final? > > > > I mean, most of us learned to do dead-sticks by having some extra > > altitude in > > reserve and then dumping it on final via the flaps or (preferably) > a > > slip. You don't > > want to come up short, because there isn't any place to get more. > If > > you were > > right on the instructor often said 'hey, have you ever considered > > that if you > > put it on the numbers without flaps or a slip on a dead-stick, you > > just as easily > > could have under-shot?' > > > > Ideas? > > > > Alternatives? > > > > Derisive gestures? > > > > Greg
Hi all,
I totally agree with what Dan posted here. I fly off of the same
grass
strip and have no problems at all with a crosswind. Our field is 18/36
and the wind is usually about 20-30 degrees from the left on 36. That's
not enough to hardly notice in a coupe. There have been days when
nothing else on the field was out of the hangars, but Dan and I still
flew and didn't feel that we were doing anything 'unsafe' (except the
drive to the airport). :-) We sure were lucky to have coupes on
those days. (Dan will no doubt have another coupe before long, I know he
misses them.) (Hey Dan, I know where there's a nice 415D with an 0-200.
And I know the bottom price that will buy it.)
Bob Saville
N3396H 415C
Eugene, OR
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