Hi Harry.

Am Donnerstag, 1. November 2007 schrieb Harry Duncan:
> > I thought I would post to _courier_-users-list, not maildrop-users. And I
> > double-checked the courier-docs, all relevant chapters are marked with
> > "if you use maildrop as delivery agent", no word about "there's nothing
> > else".
> [...]
> Could you please post information such as:
>
> 1) WHat delivery agent you do use

As I implicitly said: courier. Specifically: courierlocal


> 2) Logs showing an offending message being recieved
> 3) Logs showing that offending message being bounced

attached.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] sends a message to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and PAM-account 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] just has a .courier file and no .courier-foo 
in his home.

I also attached the 2-line-log when permissions are okay.


> There is no reason why a local delivery agent will alter how the MTA
> treats messages in relation to being bounced or deferred. Either its
> being deferred as it being suggested by two other people and you're
> missing it in the logs, or it is behaving differently for you from the
> posted logs. Providing your logging will get to the bottom of that.

Hey, this discussion really starts annoying me.

Now, I know that folks are using maildrop. They may do so, it's not my 
problem. Maildrop is another MDA and I don't want another MDA, even if it's 
from the same author or it's being discussed on the same list.

Look at the logs attached. they really say what's going on and they say that I 
am right.
When using maildrop, delivery process seems to be fundamentially different 
because it reads some filter receipes from the user's home and not the 
information if a destination address is valid or not. Sorry if that is also 
wrong, I don't use it and that's just what I got from reading the docs.

Please stop this discussion now. 
Opinions from anybody not using maildrop are welcome. But I gave up the hope 
that anybody out there uses courier with plain courierlocal delivery.

cu, Bernd
Nov  2 07:08:20 zucker courieresmtpd: started,ip=[::ffff:85.10.204.248]

Nov  2 07:08:20 zucker courierd: 
newmsg,id=000000000000C00C.00000000472ABED4.000037C9: dns; milch.schokokeks.org 
(milch.schokokeks.org [::ffff:85.10.204.248])
Nov  2 07:08:20 zucker courierd: 
started,id=000000000000C00C.00000000472ABED4.000037C9,from=<[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>,module=local,host=murrhardt!foo!1097!100!/home/murrhardt!!,addr=<murrhardt>

Nov  2 07:08:20 zucker courierlocal: 
id=000000000000C00C.00000000472ABED4.000037C9,from=<[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>,addr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Unknown user.
Nov  2 07:08:20 zucker courierlocal: 
id=000000000000C00C.00000000472ABED4.000037C9,from=<[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>,addr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,status: failure

Nov  2 07:08:20 zucker courierd: 
completed,id=000000000000C00C.00000000472ABED4.000037C9
Nov  2 07:08:20 zucker courierd: 
started,id=000000000000C00C.00000000472ABED4.000037C9,from=<>,module=dsn,host=,addr=<[EMAIL
 PROTECTED]>
Nov  2 07:08:20 zucker courierd: Waiting.  shutdown time=none, wakeup time=Fri 
Nov  2 07:35:33 2007, queuedelivering=3, inprogress=2
Nov  2 07:08:20 zucker courierd: 
newmsg,id=000000000000C00F.00000000472ABED4.000037CE: dns; localhost (localhost 
[127.0.0.1])
Nov  2 07:08:20 zucker courierd: 
started,id=000000000000C00F.00000000472ABED4.000037CE,from=<>,module=esmtp,host=milch.schokokeks.org,addr=<[EMAIL
 PROTECTED]>
Nov  2 07:18:04 zucker courieresmtpd: started,ip=[::ffff:85.10.204.248]
Nov  2 07:18:12 zucker courieresmtpd: 
error,relay=::ffff:85.10.204.248,from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,to=<[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>: 550 User unknown.

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