On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, Alessandro Vesely wrote:

>>> And at the end of the day, SPF just isn't all that effective anyway.
>>> When you can reduce your spam influx by 2-3 orders of magnitude using
>>> more sensible and cheaper methods, what is the point of bothering with
>>> more questionable methods?
>>>
>>
>> Inferring that you view SPF as an ineffective anti-spam technique, I'll
>> agree.  SPF is not an effective anti-spam technique.  It doesn't try to
>> be.  It's an email authentication system.
>>
>> SPF is fairly effective at what it was designed to do.
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by "fairly". It is not effective.
> It was designed to be widely adopted and it is not.
>
> By contrast, if greylisting were widely adopted, spammers
> would be forced to catch up and much of its effectiveness
> would be lost.

Except greylisting is fundamentally broken because it makes email from 
multi-homed senders inherently unreliable.

(from, to) greylisting I can see working. But I wouldn't even bother 
considering the (IP, from, to) method.

Just out of interest, does SPF break with multi-homed senders as well, or 
are multiple SPF records a valid (and more importantly, commonly supported 
by MTAs) configuration?

> SPF has been sentenced 2 years limbo after the MARID/IETF,
> so perhaps we'll talk about it again in spring 2008. IMHO,
> the day it will be an official protocol, organizations may
> be hold responsible for helping phishers by not setting up
> adequate SPF policies. That may boost its diffusion and
> hence effectiveness.

And on that day I'll be looking into setting up a fast foot chain selling 
Kentucky fried pigs' wings. ;-)

Gordan

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