On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Aidas Kasparas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Jerry Amundson wrote:
>> On 5/15/08, Aidas Kasparas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>>>> Aidas Kasparas writes:
>>>>
>>>>> I do not have arguments why courier should not fallback in 454 cases
>>>>> [remember "be liberal at what you accept" internet principle?].
>>>> Because any 4xx SMTP error code means exactly that: "try again later",
>>>> not "try something else entirely, which is less secure".
>> [snip]
>>> Therefore, I would agree that fallback to plain ESMT from 354 is
>>> "slightly less private" but no "less secure". But, we MUST NOT relay on
>>> that privacy which STARTTLS offers, therefore I see no problem doing
>>> fallback (with exception when STARTTLS is explicitly requested).
>>
>> Wrong. A breach of "privacy" is a breach of "security". Period.
>
> For "real privacy" and "real security" only. In my previous mail I

Yeah, you won't need TLS at all for the "imaginary security", if thats your aim.

Owen.

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