>
> So, while I do think your low population density in Dallas is likely
>
an issue, I think you need to look at that as a factor to take into
>
consideration than as a reason why it can't work.
>

Right on. Low population density also probably means that people are used to
driving further distances to do stuff.

So it might not be such a stretch to widen the geographical reach (is there
ample parking nearby? Do you promote as such?).


On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Dave Troy <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Matthew,
>
> I would also submit that population density and potential population
> near your space have a lot to do with participation and growth.
>
> Our experience in Baltimore has been that we have a consistent
> population that shows up regularly.
>
> Baltimore City has about 637,000 people, and the surrounding counties
> add another 1.3M people, for a total of about 2M in the immediate
> metro area.
>
> Philadelphia, by contrast, has about 1.45M people in the city alone,
> and its metropolitan area might be considered to be 3-6M people.  New
> York, of course, is both huge and dense, and has had a good experience
> also.
>
> So, while I do think your low population density in Dallas is likely
> an issue, I think you need to look at that as a factor to take into
> consideration than as a reason why it can't work.
>
> As Alex and Tony have said, figure out who your constituency is and
> then figure out how to love them. If they have special needs and/or
> intrinsic motivators, find them and hammer on them.  Things may go
> slower for you there because of low population density, etc, but
> that's not an excuse not to start on your growth trajectory.
>
> I like to imagine that we are on the same path as IndyHall and NWC
> here at Beehive Baltimore, with the realization that a) it's a
> different growth curve, due to the uniqueness of our location and
> population, b) we got started later.  That all said I feel that we are
> 100% on track and what's most important is that we be the best space
> we can be for *Baltimore* and not necessarily try to replicate exact
> strategies that others have used elsewhere.
>
> The New York Times recently published an article by Steven Strogatz
> that discusses city sizes and densities, and what effects variations
> in these numbers mean for a variety of internal design factors -- I
> found it fascinating:
> http://judson.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/19/math-and-the-city/
>
> Best,
> Dave
>
> --
> Dave Troy
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>
> On Jun 2, 12:18 pm, Tony Bacigalupo <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I thought it would be better to admit to what is probably a consistent
> > > problem (even for those well established places) and get some help than
> to
> > > remain stoic and let the problem continue without new eyes.
> >
> > +1 agreed.
> >
> > it seemed as if asking the question could be taken as a sign of weakness,
> >
> > > and that approaching people in such a direct manner might be
> alienating.
> > > Given that I'm already in a lack of people, that would be bad. Then
> again,
> > > it's not like it can hurt anything.
> >
> > Weakness = human = something people can connect with.
> >
> > Obviously you don't want to seem too needy; one thing you have to do as
> the
> > leader of your space is to engage people well. You will have to find ways
> to
> > get people psyched to help without it seeming like a charity case.
> >
> > Coworking naturally gets people fired up. Rely on that! Cubicles suck.
> > Working in Starbucks sucks. Talking to your cat sucks. There must be
> > something better!
> >
> > > The thing I'm having trouble is that there are more groups I've talked
> to,
> > > and plenty of people who want to use us as a free space for meetings,
> but
> > > after that initial "Hey, this would be a great idea" they go silent.
> >
> > If they need the space, they need the space. When someone does host an
> event
> > at your space, don't be shy about telling people about your space and
> > encouraging people to join.
> >
> > At this stage, your goals are actually pretty narrow: one person. One
> person
> > who will totally get what you're doing and is insanely excited about it.
> > That's all you're looking for right now, but to find them you have to
> really
> > get to know people one at a time. When you find that one person, get them
> on
> > board however appropriate. Then go from there.
> >
> > > I've been pushing hard to help promote not only my space, but the
> events
> > > and what not around here, but the reciprocation has not been exactly
> what I
> > > would like it to be.
> > > Maybe I should be more hard nosed about that?
> >
> > I vote no on that. This is the tricky part about building your social
> > capital... you make lots of deposits without necessarily being able to
> > withdraw for a long time, and you can't necessarily force it.
> >
> > Just keep at it, and keep genuinely going good for people. It will come
> back
> > around.
> >
> > T
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Matthew
> >
>

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