I am not against idea of charging money to share concrete business models.
 It saves so much time time and energy if a startup could learn from
advanced ones, besides, people who gives away experiences and time deserve
to have a little financial return. The point I am making here is, what can
you give people who is living in the other side of the globe or different
context and guarantee it will work perfectly in their own environment? 400
dollar is a peanut if you bring them a thread to network, resources and
sellable business model to the investors! If not, I don't believe in free
lunch(not a cheap lunch, either).
Besides, we are a creative community too but we must be able to make money
to survive and thrive, so I would like it is something between a community
and a commercial entity(quote from Alex: Not Only for Profit).

Yan





2009/9/16 Steve Purkiss <[email protected]>

>
> I just replied to the list as you posted originally under the label
> 'creativespace' using the words 'we' hence implying that you are the
> said company in question, but are now posting under the name 'chad'
> with the same email address and suggesting you're nothing to do with
> them.
>
> Look, I am extremely interested in how the space was created and
> sustained, but it's simply something I would not pay out for. I
> realise others would, I just think the lines should be clearly split -
> either you're charging for a 'club membership' for those who want
> professional help in setting up a commercial entity, or you're trying
> to help those of us who are creating community spaces.
>
> I of course sit in the latter area and am currently working on trying
> to save a landmark building here in Brighton, UK which we could turn
> into a community-run building. My journey has indeed taken me to just
> around the corner from the centre for social innovation - for most of
> 2005 I lived at 444 Queen St. W, literally just around the corner!
>
> So I'd love to find out more about the biz and any tips which could be
> passed on... hopefully not having to resort to trying to sell a $400
> membership to keep the place going though, hope that isn't the case.
>
> Anyways, late here so gnite!
>
> Steve Purkiss
>
> http://purkiss.com
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Chad <[email protected]> wrote:
> > good thoughts...
> > Send feedback to the centre for social innovation - I'm sure they'd be
> open
> > to it
> > http://socialinnovation.ca/
> > Tel. 416.979.3939
> > Fax. 416.979.3936
> > [email protected]
> >
> >
> >
> > On 15-Sep-09, at 9:12 PM, Steve Purkiss wrote:
> >
> > wtf?
> >
> > So you're "open sourcing" something but charging for it, which in
> > itself isn't wrong, just feel the way you present it is bad.
> >
> > You're putting it under a Creative Commons license which means one
> > person could pay then post the contents to this list.
> >
> > You're also asking people to click a link which agrees that they will
> > provide feedback, thus trying to add your own conditions to a
> > perfectly good license.
> >
> > I suggest either:
> >
> > * Be honest and just charge for the document and cut the 'sharing' speak
> >
> > ..or...
> >
> > * Give the document away under the creative commons license, be at
> > peace with the world, and see what happens.
> >
> > my 2p - I just don't like things which say they're one thing, but
> > really they're another.
> >
> > Steve Purkiss
> >
> > http://purkiss.com
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:17 PM, creativespace <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > What does this mean for you? - Well, if you ever wanted to dig inside
> >
> > CSI's unique approach to building, managing and growing shared spaces
> >
> > for social innovation, now is the time.
> >
> > We are using a creative commons license to make available all of the
> >
> > tools, tips, templates, stories, secrets, learnings and lessons from
> >
> > five years of experience.  We are spearheading the creation of a
> >
> > global community of practitioners dedicated to creating and operating
> >
> > shared spaces for social innovation.  Want to join us???
> >
> > We would like to invite you to be co-creators in the development of
> >
> > the Open Spaces Project - where we will, together, develop strategies
> >
> > and deepen our practice of catalyzing social innovation.
> >
> >
> > To learn more about the Open Spaces project, visit
> > http://openspaces.socialinnovation.ca
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> >
>
> >
>


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