I like the idea of a new mark. 

I have been speaking about the need for that and a community mark makes sense 
to me.

Geoff DiMasi
indyhall.org


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On Feb 23, 2010, at 4:41 PM, Alex Hillman wrote:

> I won't get behind some org structure that we don't fit into, but I would 
> happily get behind setting a new precedent (would work for many projects that 
> have disparate stakeholders).
> 
> AMEN!!!! 
> 
> /ah
> indyhall.org
> coworking in philadelphia
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Tara Hunt <[email protected]> wrote:
> Here is an idea:
> 
> Years ago, Chris Messina (once again) had a post he put up about community 
> marks:
> 
> http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/01/14/the-case-for-community-marks/
> 
> Rather than fitting ourselves uncomfortably into the current system (that 
> doesn't suit what we want to do), why don't we put our force behind creating 
> a new precedent? I spoke with a guy named Louis Villa (http://tieguy.org/) 
> who had worked with Lawrence Lessig on the Creative Commons project years 
> ago. I know he was quite interested in this idea (I showed him Chris' post).
> 
> I won't get behind some org structure that we don't fit into, but I would 
> happily get behind setting a new precedent (would work for many projects that 
> have disparate stakeholders).
> 
> T
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Mike Schinkel <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> To continue my point, IndyHall existed as a non-entity (just a word, and a 
>> bunch of people spreading ideas) for a long time before we created any kind 
>> of legal entity, and that was because a commercial lease needed to be 
>> signed. There have been no commercial requirements to pull off anything 
>> (including the acquisition of a domain), and definitely not for spreading of 
>> ideas. 
> 
> Minimally an entity needs to exist to own the domain.  Most likely it could 
> be an endowed trust that has funds to pay for perpetual hosting.  That way if 
> you die or if you get sued to bankruptcy for whatever reason we don't loose 
> the domain.  
> 
> Unless I miss my guess the domain is currently tied to you as a legal entity. 
> If not, please explain how the community is protected in either of those two 
> awful cases?
> 
>> In fact, the controlling nature of any singular entity (no matter how 
>> altruistic) would squash the growth potential that we've all benefited from. 
> 
> I'm not being sarcastic but reading that perspective from you and others I 
> can't stop the premise of "Green Eggs and Ham" from running through my mind.  
> It feels like rather than discuss what it might be and what value it might 
> have that some are just reacting out of fear and thus are closing themselves 
> off from even considering that there may be some value. Please don't take 
> offense, I'm just explaining how it seems to me.
> 
> As proposed the entity would only do those things we agreed to allow it to 
> do. If there are things it would do that would "squash the growth potential 
> that we've all benefited from" then we explicitly disallow those things in 
> the bylaws without a supermajority or unanimous vote of members.
> 
> One thing that *is* needed, and I'll stand firmly on this, is something we 
> can point people to who want to understand what coworking is but who are not 
> "true believers" like most on this list. For example, the media. Having the 
> media right stories about coworking ends up having them define it for us 
> whether we like it or not. I'd far rather we are in control of that 
> definition and not others who couldn't be bothered to get it "right."
> 
> -Mike Schinkel
> Ignition Alley Atlanta Coworking
> http://ignitionalley.com
> 
> P.S. We can "define" it using principles and by giving examples, it doesn't 
> have to be a single sentence.  But it we do not define it others will.
> 
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