So i realize i've been awol for a bit longer than initially promised. Jacob and i have talked about what I currently have built + still swear am just a solid afternoon from finishing as far as the original 'main db' idea. that being said, I couldn't agree more with a more conducive resource for people interested in all aspects (tech + non) of coworking being a better solution. I.e. what people who formed organizations like the scrum alliance did. it was mainly just to a)provide a resource a large group of individuals from diff backgrounds could have a fair share in how scrum is presented and b)act as a source for not only 'established' tools + resources but also let users provide their own findings/tools/code/etc..
The idea of i guess a "Coworking Collective" i thought even was a great name (and describes what at least I think jacob is trying to get at here). Now the hard part...how to get this done and in a way that works across the board. One idea I've seen used in other situations is a buddypress/wpmu type setup where there would be a global library (heck even shn/github version control setup if we wanted in addition to a regular data 'library') plus forums + the ability to post content at your own whim. That could also be an easy way to feed new posts into the coworking blog as well (trying to kill as many birds with one stone as possible here). So to recap: A ning.com type of community setup where people could form their own groups + discussions based on specific topics or even just chime in to what i'd consider more 'generalized' talk. It'd be a great way to retain networking information for users, would have a file library (and potentially even a separated one for anyone willing to host projects mid-code/etc.. allowing the group to hopefully crowd-source any bugs/additions to it). Equally hard part of this I see is being who'd be in charge. I.e. forums will need moderation, as would preventing someone from just going hog wild and spam blogging the heck outta their profile. Plus who would have a say in decisions (site related, content related, etc..) moving forward. I'll put my nerd hand up in the air as far as helping in any way possible but you guys are going to need to be the ones to come up with what i'll right now call the 'power structure' so that no one feels left out. If you'd like to see an example of the type of buddypress/ community sharing site i'm thinking of i can put up an old one (don't laugh though, the content is all phish related) that has everything except any sort of version control library (but you could post photos/ docs, etc..) -b On Jan 25, 11:44 am, Jacob Sayles <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks everyone! > > I've been thinking a lot about this and there are still a lot of ways this > could go. The trick is creating something that can process the consistent, > steady flow of data with an inconsistent, volunteer work force. That or you > shift to a non-volunteer work force, which requires money. How do folks see > this working out? The topic of fundraising has come up before. Where are > folks at these days? > > And I'll proactively respond to anyone that comes back with "If you use > <insert software tool here> you won't need anyone to manage the data". This > is fundamentally not a software problem as all tools still need humans to > use them and keep them running and it doesn't matter how "easy" it is. > > So back to my original question. How do we build an organization that is > tasked with gathering and organizing all this wonderful data? > > Jacob > > --- > Office Nomads - Individuality without Isolationhttp://www.officenomads.com- > (206) 323-6500 > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:23 PM, Alex Hillman > <[email protected]>wrote:> Amen to what Tony said. > > > /ah > > indyhall.org > > coworking in philadelphia > > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Tony Bacigalupo < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > >> I was walking to my subway train yesterday and a postcard laying on the > >> sidewalk caught my eye. > > >> It was a promotion for a creative space in Brooklyn that touted coworking > >> space as one of its offerings. > > >> It was not far from the neighborhood I live in. I had never heard of it. > >> And I'm in the business of knowing who's doing coworking in NYC. > > >> In other words, the cat is very much out of the bag. People are taking the > >> coworking concept and running with it in a lot of different directions, so > >> forget any notion of an official or central anything. > > >> Jacob, build something awesome and they will come. There are more of us > >> every single day! > > >> Cheers, > >> Tony > >> ------ > >> New Work City - Community Center for Independents. > >> Web: http://nwc.co > >> Twitter:http://twitter.com/nwc > >> Announcing NWCU: Our people-powered educational program.http://nwc.co/u > > >> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:54 PM, Alex Hillman < > >> [email protected]> wrote: > > >>> An initiative like this needs strong leadership with clearly defined > >>> intentions. Jacob's done a good job articulating this here and in > >>> one-on-one > >>> conversations, though there's still work to be done defining it and he > >>> recognizes that. He's got a well expressed vision tempered with an open > >>> mind. > > >>> I've expressed my concerns about the potential for "over-organization" > >>> with the coworking community, but also see great work being done by good > >>> leaders who guide and motivate - like Angel's work this past year with the > >>> Coworking Blog. I'd love to see that sort of progress made elsewhere, as > >>> well. > > >>> There's a happy medium that can be achieved, and I can't think of a > >>> better person to head this up than Jacob. > > >>> Just don't fuck it up, man. :) > > >>> -Alex > > >>> /ah > >>> indyhall.org > >>> coworking in philadelphia > > >>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:31 PM, The Orchestrator > >>> <[email protected]>wrote: > > >>>> Jacob, > > >>>> This somewhat describes a "Coworking Collective" as a resource center to > >>>> help all coworking establishments. It allows individuality or allows > >>>> those > >>>> to team up as well, and allows for profit or not for profit. There are > >>>> so > >>>> many resources spawning around coworking, someone or some organization > >>>> has > >>>> to and needs to "collect" it, organize it and set up sessions for all to > >>>> meet and go beyond this cyber communications world. From my own personal > >>>> experience on this google groups and other cyber forums, there are > >>>> people on > >>>> here and there who don't have a clue, or could be some teenager just > >>>> chiming > >>>> in, at random. I called someone on here to get a one on one chat to see > >>>> if > >>>> he was for real, and the guy was off his rocker, with profanity, etc. > >>>> basically a waste of my time. I think I've earned my way with education, > >>>> hard work, and proven and seasoned experience to not waste my time > >>>> speaking > >>>> to a child like person I met on Google Groups or some other cyber > >>>> collaboration platform, where I'm looking for answers to my questions, > >>>> related to coworking and to help me become successful. > > >>>> Coworking is growing, no doubt about it. I feel it should allow for > >>>> independence and create opportunities, it has to be organized or it's > >>>> somewhat complete chaos, dysfunctional and disorganized, and there's a > >>>> lot > >>>> of "he said, she said". > > >>>> I thought I'd just share my opinion and experience and I appreciate your > >>>> time. > > >>>> Thank you! > > >>>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Jacob Sayles > >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: > > >>>>> Hello, > > >>>>> I've been putting a lot of time and thought into how we share data, the > >>>>> data we share, and what could be done with all this data. I've chimed > >>>>> in > >>>>> here and there but I wanted to throw out some ideas that keep coming up > >>>>> and > >>>>> where I'm currently at. First, it's important to recognize that our > >>>>> community has exploded in recent years and has grown quite large and > >>>>> broad > >>>>> both in terms of geography and diversity. One extraordinary aspect of > >>>>> this > >>>>> community is the desire to share openly everything from startup tips, > >>>>> marketing advice, and best practices to legal documents, annual > >>>>> reports, and > >>>>> business plans. The current systems used to facilitate this sharing > >>>>> are our > >>>>> google group and the coworking wiki. Their primary advantages are their > >>>>> neutrality and openness and their ability to grow organically as the > >>>>> community grows and different players come and go. I love that these > >>>>> simple > >>>>> systems can be so effective and instrumental in our growth and I want to > >>>>> recognize that even with their faults they have facilitated this > >>>>> community > >>>>> effectively. The topic of where they are lacking has come up and has > >>>>> been > >>>>> discussed frequently. Usually it follows the pattern that some other > >>>>> tool > >>>>> would do a better job and it's countered by the fact that every tool has > >>>>> things that it does well, and things it does not. Also, switching > >>>>> systems > >>>>> is very disruptive and time consuming and with an all volunteer effort > >>>>> such > >>>>> as this it's unclear who is going to take on the work. > > >>>>> What we've witnessed time and again is that setting up great > >>>>> collaboration tools isn't the hard part. The problem is organizing > >>>>> volunteers, maintaining momentum and growing the solutions over time. > >>>>> Case > >>>>> in point is the Google Map. Someone set this up long ago, yet it's > >>>>> unmaintained and out of date, rendering it useless. The fact that it > >>>>> was > >>>>> easy to setup is irrelevant and misleading. It's important to take a > >>>>> holistic/systems view and consider all these little intricate elements > >>>>> when > >>>>> trying to find "solutions". > > >>>>> To that end, I've been having a lot of individual conversations, with a > >>>>> wide array of folks, exploring different ways to take on these > >>>>> challenges. > >>>>> I believe this can be done without the disruption of switching tools or > >>>>> enforcing standards on the group. *Our diversity and our independence > >>>>> is what makes us so beautiful and that should be embraced, not > >>>>> mitigated to > >>>>> make solutions easier to implement*. One way to do this that > >>>>> continually comes up is the formation of an organization that can take > >>>>> the > >>>>> time to focus on these specific issues. This organization would have > >>>>> the > >>>>> simple, and specific goal of organizing and maintaining the data > >>>>> coworking > >>>>> spaces love to share and helping coordinate free/libre/open source > >>>>> projects > >>>>> that benefit the coworking community. I believe a dedicated, neutral > >>>>> entity, can strike the right balances and maintain the right focus to > >>>>> make > >>>>> something like this work. The image of a library comes to mind and it > >>>>> makes > >>>>> me wonder if we need a coworking library. > > >>>>> And more and more terrific projects are emerging from within the > >>>>> community every day that would benefit from more support, coordination, > >>>>> and > >>>>> information. Great examples include Stephanie's indexing of the Google > >>>>> Group conversations, Jonathan's development of the Coworking Registry, > >>>>> the > >>>>> Coworking Blog, Hallen Projekt, PariSOMA iPhone app, Coworking Europe > >>>>> and > >>>>> the SxSW unconference. With the diversity of talent and global reach > >>>>> of the > >>>>> coworking movement, more collaboration will enable us to accomplish even > >>>>> more amazing things. > > >>>>> I want to open the discussion to the whole group and see whether people > >>>>> think an organization like this is necessary and if this is going in the > >>>>> right direction? Would you support this endeavor and/or participate? > >>>>> What > >>>>> other tasks/challenges do you think should be taken on? Everything is > >>>>> still > >>>>> very early in the development and it's really more about pinning down a > >>>>> core > >>>>> philosophy which I've tried to communicate here as best I could. > > >>>>> Thoughts, comments, concerns? > > >>>>> Jacob > > >>>>> --- > >>>>> Office Nomads - Individuality without Isolation > >>>>>http://www.officenomads.com- (206) 323-6500 > > >>>>> -- > >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>>> Groups "Coworking" group. > >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>>> [email protected]<coworking%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups > >>>>> .com> > >>>>> . > >>>>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > > >>>> -- > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>> Groups "Coworking" group. > >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>> [email protected]<coworking%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups > >>>> .com> > >>>> . > >>>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>>http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "Coworking" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> [email protected]<coworking%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups > >>> .com> > >>> . > >>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "Coworking" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected]<coworking%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups > >> .com> > >> . > >> For more options, visit this group at > >>http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Coworking" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<coworking%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups > > .com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. 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