Impressive. How many other wifi access points are within range? I have a feeling that our signal to noise ratio was hurting our ability to run that many devices from even 4 Airport Extremes.
I guess the lesson here is "your milage may vary" on any of these pieces of equipment, so don't expect a silver bullet. -- /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Jacob Sayles wrote: > Yes, just one Airport Extreme. At the moment we have 42 devices connected to > the wireless out of 63 in the space... but it's also a quiet day. Last > Wednesday, our busiest day ever, we had 107 devices in the space. I can't > see how many of those were on the wifi. I say "devices" because most users > are at least 2 with their phone and their laptop. Today we have 26 members > in the space. > > Jacob > > --- > Office Nomads - Individuality without Isolation > http://www.officenomads.com - (206) 323-6500 > > > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Alex Hillman <[email protected] > (mailto:[email protected])> wrote: > > Just one Airport Extreme How many people share that AP? > > > > > > -- > > /ah > > indyhall.org (http://indyhall.org) > > coworking in philadelphia > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Jacob Sayles wrote: > > > > > We run pfsense on an old P3 machine and it works great. The WAN > > > fail-over is a little clunky so don't expect seamless transitions. It > > > takes about 10 seconds to switch over and all VPNs, file transfers, etc > > > are dropped. That said, 10 seconds of outage is better then being down. > > > That's why we pay $200/month for a second internet connection. We > > > balance it out by having that line (comcast) handle all our phones (4). > > > > > > Wifi we are happy with our Airport Extreme. 5000sqft and solid coverage. > > > > > > Jacob > > > > > > --- > > > Office Nomads - Individuality without Isolation > > > http://www.officenomads.com - (206) 323-6500 (tel:%28206%29%20323-6500) > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Alex Hillman > > > <[email protected] (mailto:[email protected])> > > > wrote: > > > > I'm working on a complete redux of the evolution of our networking > > > > equipment as we've grown for my blog, I'll share it here when it's > > > > done. Here's a bit of a preview of the latest evolution. > > > > > > > > On the router side of things, we now have a pfSense-based appliance > > > > called a Firebox. pfSense is a very robust piece of router software and > > > > can be run on a variety of appliances that range in price, but we were > > > > able to pick one of the older models (RX6264S) up on EBay for ~$220. > > > > > > > > pfSense itself is free and open source, but specialized hardware can > > > > run it optimally. We looked at new hardware from http://www.hacom.net > > > > (http://www.hacom.net/) and it runs $800-1500. > > > > > > > > It's a LOT more powerful than anything in the consumer arena, handling > > > > 1000's of users and millions of connections. Consumer gear starts to > > > > slow down with anything north of 50 users. It' usable, but you'll start > > > > noticing problems. Also, pfSense gives us REALLY great analytics for > > > > finding and squashing problems, like connections that are flooding the > > > > network for all users and also gives us really useful tools for giving > > > > things that need connection priority (like Skype and SSH connections) > > > > over things like Youtube and torrents. > > > > > > > > For us, that means a much easier to manage "network policy". You can > > > > use just about anything on our network, and the router figures out if > > > > it's causing problems and throttles the amount of network it has access > > > > to. > > > > > > > > The hardware we bought also allows for bridged WAN, which means we can > > > > install a fallback ISP for when our primary ISP is having issues, and > > > > that way people don't' ever lose their connection. > > > > > > > > On the wireless side of things, we tested Meraki and Ruckus and went > > > > with Ruckus. Meraki APs seemed to have a shorter range and while the > > > > Cloud Control system was badass, we'd never use 99% of it. The sales > > > > people were really nice and helpful, but it didn't seem like a good fit > > > > for us. > > > > > > > > Ruckus, on the other hand, was challenging to work with through their > > > > normal enterprise sales channels so we went to Ebay again and bought a > > > > new AP for 25% off list price and it works awesome. We don't get their > > > > enterprise support, but I'm not too worried about it. I'm very happy > > > > with the performance of a single access point (covering and supporting > > > > >100 users on 2 floors) and plan to buy a 2nd AP to beef up the > > > > coverage. We're using the Ruckus 7962 - > > > > http://www.ruckuswireless.com/products/zoneflex-indoor/7962 > > > > > > > > Thanks for the recommendation for Ruckus from the Cambridge Innovation > > > > Center crew. I'm a happy customer. > > > > > > > > I also strongly recommend NetSpot (www.netspotapp.com > > > > (http://www.netspotapp.com)) for doing a site survey, which I was > > > > recommended by Chris Johnson (copied on this email). It's a free app > > > > that lets you do a heat map of signal strength and signal to noise > > > > ratios. It gave me a TON of insight into placement and the resulting > > > > coverage of wifi. Probably the most useful tool I learned about last > > > > month! > > > > > > > > -Alex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > /ah > > > > indyhall.org (http://indyhall.org) > > > > coworking in philadelphia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, June 4, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Angel Kwiatkowski wrote: > > > > > > > > > I lied, we use Netgear routers. They're odd. They needed to be > > > > > restarted constantly when we first moved in but now run very smoothly. > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, June 3, 2012 8:55:04 PM UTC-6, Angel Kwiatkowski wrote: > > > > > > We use Dlink routers. One in the basement conference room where the > > > > > > juice line comes in that's hardwired up to the 3rd floor where most > > > > > > of the coworking happens. Both are activated for wireless. > > > > > > Additionally, I think the guys ran hard wires all the way upstairs > > > > > > and then hooked up a couple of switches. Several people hard wire > > > > > > in while at Cohere but the majority don't. > > > > > > We have 5-10 people in the space at any time and we have Comcast > > > > > > Biz class 50/10 for $200/mo. It all depends on how your city is > > > > > > wired up. We have some special consideration being just a couple of > > > > > > blocks away from a large university here. > > > > > > > > > > > > Angel > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, August 25, 2011 9:09:58 AM UTC-6, JJ wrote: > > > > > > > Hey all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Without getting into too much introduction and details, I'll just > > > > > > > cut right to it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm opening a space next week in South Dakota. Working on > > > > > > > finalizing details right now, and one thing I'm not too sure > > > > > > > about is internet. We've got 20 members or so pre-signed to move > > > > > > > in day 1 and in trying to plan for the future, am trying to > > > > > > > figure out what sort of internet speed I need, and what sort of > > > > > > > router to handle the space's size and amount of people. It's a > > > > > > > long space, about 150ft, and we could very easily have 100 people > > > > > > > accessing the network at any given time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any of the larger spaces out there have insight? I'm currently > > > > > > > looking at an internet speed of 50 down/10up or 100 down/15 up. > > > > > > > Also am looking at 801.11n routers that have two to three > > > > > > > adjustable networks built into the device. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would love some thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Josh Aberson > > > > > > > [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]) > > > > > > > m: 521.6158 | @JoshAberson > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 220 S. 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