For the Connections SF Space I did implement Lockitron using a strike plate,
also tied FOB¹s to the system which could also be used for your hotel room
door, and to access the workspace doors. For members of the workspace only,
they use mobile devices to access the building of the hotel, and the door
into the workspace. They also have an API, so you can integrate into any
existing reservations systems, etc.

Jacob,

What are doing in SF? Make sure you come by to catch up, and please plan on
having lunch one day in our Food Truck park directly next door to Citizen
Space on 2nd. 


Toby



On 7/14/14, 10:56 AM, "Jacob Sayles" <[email protected]> wrote:

> For something like that Andy you probably want to focus on if the door jam can
> hold and electric strike.  They are easier to deal with actually but
> residential products focus on the deadbolt because that is a standard
> residential doors.  We have a lot more to work with in commercial spaces.  
> 
> As for codes vs RFID vs physical keys vs phones: It's important to understand
> the advantages and disadvantages each brings to the situation.  The RedVic
> need codes we can email people like I described, but I'm generally against
> codes as they are too easy to copy, pass on, overhear, etc.  Keys are too hard
> to revoke and change so at Office Nomads we go with RFID.  Phone solutions I'm
> sure work great here in tech savvy San Francisco so I'm not surprised at all
> they work great for you Toby.  I wonder how that would work even in Seattle
> and it makes me wonder what I would come up with if I looked at the phones of
> every member that had a key.  We already have an RFID solution so that would
> mostly be academic.  
> 
> Jacob
> 
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> http://www.officenomads.com -  (206) 323-6500
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Andy Soell <[email protected]> wrote:
>> As long as we're back on electronic locks, we're looking for a good solution
>> for our new location. The existing door is glass with a narrow stile
>> <http://www.customstorefronts.com/products/doors/aluminum/aluminum.htm>
>> frame that won't accommodate a standard deadbolt sized solution. If you
>> search for door-code style locks for door like this on Amazon, you get a lot
>> of results but none of them with enough purchases to figure out if they're
>> good or not. Angel mentioned one earlier in this thread that would work, but
>> it wasn't very favorably reviewed by her. Does anyone have any tips on a door
>> code lock like this that they would recommend? I definitely want something
>> with easily programmable codes we can give our members and not fobs or
>> smartphone integration.
>> 
>> andy
>> 
>> 
>> On Monday, July 14, 2014 1:17:49 PM UTC-4, Jacob Sayles wrote:
>>> I'm down here in San Francisco now, knee deep in renovations for The Red
>>> Victorian <http://www.redvic.com>  and working on their door lock solution.
>>>  We don't want to use any smart phone systems (Kevo, Lockitron, August, etc)
>>> because we can't know for sure what kind of phone our guests will have, if
>>> they will even have phones, or if they are charged when they arrive.  We
>>> want to go with a personalized key code that can be generated and emailed to
>>> them using the reservation system we built.  For that we are hooking up the
>>> existing electric strike on the front gate to a raspberry pi and a wiegand
>>> keypad.  The next bit of magic will be to hook up each room with a Kwikset
>>> SmartCode lock and push the generated code to the given room, and turn off
>>> the previous occupants code. 
>>> 
>>> The advantages of going with the Kwikset are that it can use the existing
>>> lock tumblers so we can keep the large amount of room keys we already have.
>>>  Also at around $120-$150 the price is right for outfitting 20+ doors.
>>>  People have been getting really excited about the idea of outfitting each
>>> door with a raspberry pi but by the time we get power, servos, and a durable
>>> enclosure hooked up it's going to be a lot more expensive.  One pi at the
>>> front door calling all the shots is all we need.  Of course I have to figure
>>> out how to send the key codes to each door so there is more R&D needed.  I'm
>>> also working to figure out the Wiegand protocol to hook up the keypad.  If
>>> anyone has played with this, please reach out.  
>>> 
>>> Jacob
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> Office Nomads - Individuality without Isolation
>>> http://www.officenomads.com -  (206) 323-6500 <tel:%28206%29%20323-6500>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 6:34 AM, rachel cline <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Good info, I saw the fobs cost about $25, I didn't notice you had to pay
>>>> for each virtual key also.
>>>> 
>>>> Rachel Cline
>>>> 702-577-8627
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 14, 2014, at 6:30 AM, Andy Soell <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> The one thing I would recommend, if you¹re looking at Kevo, is to make
>>>>> sure you understand how their ³ekey² pricing model works. Unless I¹m
>>>>> grossly misunderstanding, it looks like the way it works is that you have
>>>>> to pay for packs of virtual ³keys² to give to people before they can
>>>>> unlock it with their phone. It seems a bit ridiculous to me that you have
>>>>> to pay for the hardware and then pay again for each user you want to be
>>>>> able to unlock the hardware. If you have a lot of members, the cost for
>>>>> the Kevo system could end up being quite a bit higher than expected if you
>>>>> were only looking at the cost of the hardware.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 12, 2014, at 11:43 PM, Rachel Cline <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kevo looks great!  thanks for sharing.  Have you found any additional
>>>>>> information or reviews?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Friday, June 6, 2014 2:49:10 PM UTC-7, Andy Soell wrote:
>>>>>>> Love all these reviews, thanks for all the guidance everyone! Does
>>>>>>> anyone have any experience with a newer Bluetooth-enabled locked called
>>>>>>> Kevo? Works with iOS devices, and also supports key fobs for users with
>>>>>>> other mobile phone platforms.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://www.kwikset.com/Kevo/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Looks promising, but I'm always a little wary of newer, untested
>>>>>>> products. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 

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