Bruno, I'm going to reply to this but I'm not interested about producing a huge thread here. I'm going to apologize for my reaction yesterday but I would like to make you understand the reasons for it.
Just to be clear (because it seems that not everybody got what you wrote
last time
bruno desthuilliers wrote:
[...]
>>> Well, CPS was already close to average Java softwares in terms of
>>> agility and simplicity, so it seems quite logical indeed...
If I'm translating in French :
"""
Et bien CPS était déjà assez proche d'un logiciel de base Java en terme
d'agilité et de complexité donc ça semble logic (i.e : java migration)
"""
For someone who's been taking time to reply to your mails on the list
this year, in my free time, what do you want me to think about that
seriously ?
[...]
> Please search the archives and count how many times I "complained" here.
> Regarding my "vision" of free software, it doesn't imply contributing
> to *your* project specifically - believe it or not, there are quite a
> lot of free softwares to contribute to.
I could find lots of similar comments in the archives but at the same
time you have been helping people out so let's say I'm wrong here.
> I really do appreciate the friendliness of your tone.
>
> CPS is not simple and that's a fact. It's a complex software build on
> top of a complex framework build on top of a complex application server.
> I'm neither criticizing this fact (I've learned to live with it) nor
> discussing the reasons (technical, historical, whatever) behind this
> fact, and I can well understand some of these reasons - just like I can
> understand the reasons for the switch to Java.
>
> Now given that I just stated a couple of mostly obvious facts, I really
> find your (over)reaction surprising. Or is it that you find it insulting
> to hear your project compared to some Java software ? If so, I can't
> help - but then don't put the blame on me.
That's where we disagree. I wouldn't call that "obvious facts" right ?
What your did was just "bitching". Your mail was useless.
What it says :
- CPS was unagile and complex.
- So are basic Java applications
=> double shoot !
Criticizing is helpful in two ways :
- pointing out problems so that from it we can fix it by checking the
origin of the problem.
- pointing out problems *and* giving solutions.
Bitching is annoying for people that are working really hard on a
project. Nuxeo is a small company where each individual invest himself
big time. They last thing they need when taking some of their free time
to answer the community lists is some comments bitching about CPS.
Plus, to be perfectly clear. If you had say that you found Nuxeo
decision stupid because you didn't like Java I would never have reply
because that would have been your thoughts.
You can contact me offline if you want to continue thie discussion.
Bien cordialemment,
J.
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