On 25 Apr 2001, at 13:34, Matthew Gaylor wrote:

> Not quite-  I don't think it's nothing.  I find it a gross and 
> serious privacy violation when I have to show ID and provide a phone 
> number when I fly.  

The initial point I was attempting to communicate is you can't 
compare train service in the UK with what is left of train service in 
Canada and the USA.  A better comparison would be trains in the 
UK to the Greyhound type bus system in the USA.

I actually intended to respond to Tim May's message but my 
response to you would be much the same.

The US government is following a path which is leading to 
significant less freedom for its citizens.  After TWA 800 ID was 
mandatory for air travel, even after it was determined TWA 800 was 
most likely brought down by issues not related to terrorism or 
deliberate human intention.  Yet no complains, except a few 
grumbles on this list.

It is in the hands of US citizens, if they don't want to be forced to 
produce ID they wouldn't have to.  The government can't force their 
citizens to do what the citizens don't want to do.  Prohibition is an 
example of the government eventually giving way to the wants of the 
people.  Even the recent taming of the IRS is an example of the 
government responding to its citizens.

I really hate to be so cynical but most people actually believe they 
are safer if they allow the government to take all their weapons and 
watch their every move.  Just look at the UK and their cameras. A 
lot of people have lost the ability to think  for themselves, they 
believe what the media feeds them and never bother to question 
what they are being told or the tilt of the organization presenting the 
information.  Authorities are generally believed without question.

I find I most bulletize information for most people now.  People 
seem to have lost the ability to understand any concept which can't 
be explained in 25 words or less.  Use more than 25 words and 
their comprehension sub-system resets.  How can freedom be 
explained in less than 25 words?

> And note that Amtrak did pull the DEA's direct access to their 
> ticketing system.  They did so not because they knew they were in the 
> wrong, which they were, but rather the American public won't stand 
> for it.

Is Amtrak still getting a cut of any cash seized under Asset 
Forfeiture?  Is Amtrak still feeding the DEA information in an 
indirect manner?  If Amtrak is still profiling passengers and feeding 
information to the DEA you still have a problem.  Amtrak should 
only be concerned with running a passenger service and that their 
passengers behave while under the control of Amtrak.

Cooperation with law enforcement is fine but one wrong seizure of 
assets is not worth the gain of 100 seizures.




Virtually

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