At 3:57 PM +0300 5/8/01, Sampo Syreeni wrote:
>On Mon, 7 May 2001, Trei, Peter wrote:
>
>>Making a car with electronic ignition stutter or stall is *old* *news* to
>>folk in the Ham Radio field. If they really had to get within 5 feet,
>>their car killer is really, really feeble.
>
>OTOH, Hams tend to work with considerably longer wavelengths, something you
>could not project with easily concealed devices. I think it's pretty evident
>that if you pour some 100kW on a 20-meter wave, you can wipe out just about
>anything electronic.

Only if you can couple the power into the target in the right way.

Simplest counterexample: Faraday-shielded enclosure. 100KW at 20m 
will have no effect on devices inside.

(Then the issue becomes: how good is an automobile as a Faraday cage? 
And, what kinds of protection does the circuitry have?)

I plan to make this my one and only response here to this latest 
thread. Frankly, the HERF guns and EMP suitcases (a misuse of the 
term EMP, in my view, but it's commonly used in this way) have been 
discussed many times.

A former and maybe-current member of our list did some contract work 
on HERF guns several years back, when the "info war" crowd was 
claiming the Irish Republican Army had already launched at least one 
attack on London banks.

--Tim May
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