From: Shane Mage

> The following, from the 16/9 Science News, is only one of many refutations
> of the manic doomsday pessimism of Mr. Jones:

This is no refutation at all, being yet another Pollyanna dream state in the
scientism of denial. The evidence is all around you, and such pejoratives as
"manic doomsday pessimism" only serve to demonstrate that you haven't
investigated the issue seriously, but have only searched for some
superficial evidence to support your wishful thinking.

Here are a couple of points for you to consider before rejecting the crash:

1) Start with Weiss's apt observation: "Because processes that use sunlight
to extract hydrogen remain costly and inefficient, fossil fuels still supply
the hydrogen in most fuel cells."

Now relinquish your denial long enough to actually calculate the process
that would replace "costly and inefficient, fossil fuels " with Stuart Licht
's process.  How much energy is required to produce enough of those fuel
cell systems to replace fossil fuel? Where does THAT energy come from? Where
does that energy come from in competiton with fossil fuel demand for everday
uses?  Now ...calculate the number of Licht-based systems required to
totally replace the demand currently filled by fossil fuels. Then ... add
the additional demand projected by the time your Licht systems are in place.
(You must have all systems in the world converted by 2025.) Don't fudge,
please, and don't invoke the deus ex machina of "science will save us ...
somehow". Just do the actual real-time calculations of your projected
changeover. Really do the calculations, be honest.

Use your own research and sources, that way you can avoid suspicion that
Mark's or mine are skewed toward chicken little.

Then see if your think Mark's statement is manic ... or unduly pessimistic.

2) Explain what the small percentage of fossil fuels that are currently
devoted to petrochemical fertilizers will be replaced with. Calculate the
effect that withdrawing petrochemical fertilizer from word agriculture will
have upon population. Don't just guess, please. Be honest and seriously
examine the issue. Again ... research your own sources.

Tom





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