>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/18/00 06:29PM >>> At 10:33 17/10/00 -0400, Charles wrote: >Another thought that has been bouncing around in my head on the issue of >value and ecology is that Marx's _Capital_ is descriptive of the state of >things under capitalism. It should be obvious to everyone that Marx was >not proposing by writing _Capital_ that the production of exchange-value >or value and surplus-value should continue as the modus operandi of human >society. Yes, although it is implicit rather than prominent in his work (((((((( CharlesB: I think this is what is meant by an immanent critique. (((( his approach implies that the capitalist mode of production is only a subset of a larger pciture which requires a sort of meta-analysis - the different economic modes of production which contribute to the total social product of the society and the extent to which they are managed with social foresight. ((((((((( CB: But not just the modes in the larger subset that already exist or existed in the past, but a new mode that has never existed before. ((((((((( >the concept of exchange-value is not included in the Marxist analysis of >ecological revolution. It should be. It is about human energy.(Labour power). An overall balance of energy and resources on this planet cannot be made without consciously analysing what comes from human energy, and what from other forms of energy. And how the capitalist mode of production violently eats into all pre-existing modes of production. ((((((((( CharlesB: Yes, I agree with your correction of me Chris. It is SURPLUS-value that would be specifically and especially negated. Labour ( not just labour-power; actually expended labour power as labour) as the hidden reality behind and best essence underneath the phenomena of exchange-value and price must be considered in ecology, our active exchange with nature. _______________________________________________ Crashlist resources: http://website.lineone.net/~resource_base To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.wwpublish.com/mailman/listinfo/crashlist
