sorry about all the typos. In particular I meant POST-capitalist transitions, as a
fruitful locus of debate about bioregionalism.
Most people have probably read Jared Diamond's book 'Guns Germs and Steel' (?title)
which is supposedly the definitive attempt to map history of biomes and geography of
zones, onto the history of emergence and evoklution of competing civilisations. His
theses have been hugely debated and criticised, of course. It is a very intersting
book and a lot of the world-systems and marxisant critis were I though pretty
misplaced.
Mark
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> Tom wrote:
> > The fertility issue is only separated out as long as you draw lines on the
> > map in youir mind and fail to realize that there is a kind of bioregional
> > and demographic linkage between the US and, say, Bangladesh.
>
> I find this concept of bioregionalism increasingly interesting in
> unexpected ways.
> What I'm wondering about is how you'd map the world market (which as you say does
> not respect frontiers, or at least, only in highly mediated ways) onto the
> biogeography of the planet. I wonder how isomorphic is the fit between bioregions
> (and their physical correlations) and the world market, the world division of
> labour, and between the bioregions regions and world-system models of
> core/peripheries (I've never seen even a signle reference to bioregionalism in eg
> Andre Gunder Frank, Immanuel Wallerstein etc, altho some world-system folks are
> definitely very aware of the issue, both spatially and historically, see for eg
> Goldtsone's papers on the crashlist website).
>
> This is a fruitful topic. It is a new way of accessing the history of conflict,
> competition, iomperial predation and strugglke for hegemony between different zone
> over long historicla periods: the Mediterranean, Americas, Asia, Africa, northenr
> Europe. It raises prfound questions about the impacts of global warming
> on different
> zones, on possible benefits to temperate zones and possible dieback of savannah,
> rainforest in tropical zones etc.
>
> There is an awful lot to think about here and what is especially good is that it
> allows one to speculate about past-capitalist transitions, where we consider new
> forms of international and inter-bioregional planning. How far have the
> bioregionalists done work on the interactions between biogeography,
> demography, and
> the pattern of existing production, the skewing of infrastructure to the North and
> the difficulty of ever building up equivalent infrastructure in the Souith in
> conditions of energy-famines and climate change?
>
> Mark
>
>
> >
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