Ain't it charming to see Andrej (now) calling Otpor fascist. I don't recall him saying that before, but OK. So let me see: 1) Chomsky and Andrej described Oct. 5 as a progressive revolution 2) that revolution's real deeds - the sacking of parliament, the forceful dispossession of staff at Tanjug, Politika, Borba and other anti-NATO institutions, the visits to nationalists and socialists and communists with death threats - all this was carried out by Otpor and by similar forces such as the explicitly pro-US (indeed, pro Monarchy) Mayor of Canak and his paid followers whose march on Belgrade was modeled on the march on Rome (see British Helsinki Group's report on Serbian election farce at http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/srbele.htm ) The Crisis Committees which forced the Socialist-Radical government out and replaced them with the pro US forces of Djindjic, Protic and Svilanovic - these were staffed by Otpor et al as well. But Andrej now says Otpor and the like are - fascists. So fascists were the shock troops of a revolution and the revolution was progressive. With this kind of reasoning, it is impossible for one to agree. One must SUBMIT. It is all explained by the forefather of such reasoning, Mr. H. Dumpty, quoted by L. Carroll, as follows: "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean--neither more nor less." "The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things." '"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master----that's all." --Lewis Carroll, Through The Looking-Glass Jared _______________________________________________ CrashList website: http://website.lineone.net/~resource_base
