Nestor wrote:
>
> En relacisn a [CrashList] !!!,
> el 31 Mar 01, a las 2:38, Andrej Grubacic dijo:
>
> >
> > They are arresting Slobodan Milosevic.
> > @.
>
> They are arresting the Serbian sense of dignity and justice, if
> they do so. I
> hope the Serbs will react and wipe away all the traitors from their
> beautiful
> country.
>
> And I suggest every member of this list who is not a delighted
> consumer of NATO
> garbage to move in defense of Milosevic.
>
> It would be only fair.
There has been very little meaningful debate about Milosevic, but an awful lot
of crossposting which amounts to spam. This is a discussion list, not a forum
for people from Emperor's New Clothes or the SPS who are happy to abuse the
platform we offer but are not interested in or not capable of responding to
serious criticism. Only recently Jared was trying to use CrashList to promote
the interests of the most disgusting Yeltsinite stooge, Pavel Borodin, a
person of unbelievable personal depravity and corruption, because Milosevic
was looking for a place of exile and could only find Belarus. Jared is
shilling for Milosevic. That is not what CrashList is about.
It was always obvious that Belarus would not take Milosevic anyway, but in the
course of debating Jared's opportunistic and unprincipled position, one of the
positions that Jared vehemently argued is that 'it is up to the people of
Russia to deal with their own criminals', and that Borodin should not be
arrested on a Swiss warrant, while in New York--even though he was arrested
for crimes against both Swiss and US banking practice! No-one, even the
masters of organised Russian crime now agitating for his release on grounds of
Russian 'national honour', is denying that he actually committed these crimes
or was actually involved in looting Russia. What they are arguing is that
Russians must never be arrested abroad! That is absurd by any test. Jared's
argument was simply silly, and it also said much about the kind of people
Milosevic and the SPS are happy to associate with (any port in a storm, eh?)
But in any case what is sauce for the goose is evidently sauce for the gander
and if it's OK, according to Jared, for Borodin to be brought to book in
Russia/Belarus or 'for the Russian people to deal with their own problems' as
Jared put it (a strange endorsement of post-Soviet Russian 'democracy'), then
presumably it's OK for Milosevic (by the same reasoning) to be brought to book
by the government of Yugoslavia, which was elected in no more and no less a
democratic a way than were the present governments of Russia and Belarus.
Possibly Nestor feels supportive for the same reasons he objected to the
arrest of Pinochet in London; I never understood his reasons then and do not
know.
Frankly I have had enough with prima donna tactics and crazed sectarianism,
and I can't see that what good is being done for the Serbian people
themselves, anyway.
But IN ANY CASE it is only a few days since I asked people not to start new
threads on the CrashList because of the technical problems we have had
associated with the bankruptcy of the network provider. Most people have
respected our request. Why am I not surprised at the way our request has been
simply ignored by the Milosevic supporters?
So this is a warning: any more spamming of the list will result in the
ejection of those responsible.
Mark
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