Dear All,

I believe:
a) E92 and E93 cannot be merged. The addition of a

P164 <#_P164_%28Px9%29_is> is restricted by: E52 <#_E52_Time-Span> Time Span

property is essential to the identity criterion on an E93. Therefore, it is a special case of E92, and not
   an optional property added to it.

b) We should get rid of explicit modelling phenomenal spacetime volumes completely. The question about how many contiguous STV parts constitute an instance of E4 Period, must not be the reason to introduce a particular relation for all spatiotemporal reasoning. A phenomenal STV is so unambiguously bound to the phenomenon, either E4 or E18, that this can equally be solved by making contiguous subsets of E4 Period a subclass of E4 Period, and then make them part-of of the larger one. Multiple instantiation, even though alien in substance, is the most intuitive model, and, consistent, if we don't stick to clumsy representations of the normal case in order to have elegance for rare phenomena.

Then, we can get rid of P158,P159 and all the quantification mess.

On the other side, we can identify E93 with the verb "was" in the sense of the Spanish/ Italian? estar / stare ?.

If I want to say, "Martin was in room G151 on Monday noon",

I can identify myself with my STV, "was" with the snapshot of my STV to Monday noon, and "in room G151"
with " P161 has spation projection: Place XXX. falls within "room G161".

I'd regard that such compact expressiveness is really what we need for basic CRM, and not endless chains
through useless theoretical constructs.

c) We should regard E52 Time-Span as "phenomenal" and Time Primitive as "declarative".

All the best,

Martin

On 21/1/2015 12:07 μμ, Chryssoula Bekiari wrote:
Dear  All

I would like to remind you your homework about Issue 234.
In the attached file you may find part of the minutes as well as the current definitions for P4, P157,P158, P159

Regards
Chryssoula

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