Agreed. There are however at least two references in the TEI to issues concerning the translation of verbal (and imprecise) temporal descriptions in the source text to interpretations of numerical values. See http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/CO.html#CONADA (in particular the reference to mechanisms connected to the expression of ' Certainty, Precision, and Responsibility') and also the reference to the possibility to link a temporal expression in the document being encoded to an explicit interpretation linking to a features structure mechanism outside of the encoding of that document (see http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/ND.html#NDDATER).
I see another issue concerning the interpretation of numbers into dating and connected to what you say here. For example in the survey there are two expressions: 'circa 1100' and 'circa 1172'. The number 1100 in natural but also palaeographical language might denote a full century and not just the year 1100, while 1172 is most likely used to denote that year only. So 'circa 1100' could arguably be understood to mean '1091-1199' while 'circa 1172' would be taken to denote a narrower interval range, say '1170-1174'. Best, Arianna Dr Arianna Ciula Department of Humanities University of Roehampton | London | SW15 5PH [email protected] | www.roehampton.ac.uk -----Original Message----- From: Crm-sig [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christian-Emil Smith Ore Sent: 12 March 2015 08:36 To: 'crm-sig' Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] Fwd: DigiPal: The Problem of Digital Dating: Online Survey It is an interesting problem. In printed editions of medieval documents , say regests, the editors usually try to deduce a dating from the text and from the physical document (information carrier). This may well be 'spring 1288', 'summer 1340', 'first half of 12th c.' or 'March 12th 1289,1290 or 1294' Many of not most databases with medieval material are based on retro digitized printed editions with dates as above. If these dates which are the result of the analysis of a scholar are converted into exact dates or numeric intervals, then it is a second interpretation and an additional indirection step away from the original text. In an ideal world the evidence on which the deduction behind the dating should be available. This is generally not so. This issue is for example not mentioned in the TEI guidelines. Regards, Christian-Emil >-----Original Message----- >From: Crm-sig [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >Stephen Stead >Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 2:59 PM >To: 'Øyvind Eide'; 'crm-sig' >Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] Fwd: DigiPal: The Problem of Digital Dating: >Online Survey > >It is indeed of interest and worth filling in as it makes you think >about your pre-conceptions and how filthy real data is (and rightly >so!!) Rgds SdS > >Stephen Stead >Tel +44 20 8668 3075 >Mob +44 7802 755 013 >E-mail [email protected] >LinkedIn Profile http://uk.linkedin.com/in/steads > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Crm-sig [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Øyvind >Eide >Sent: 11 March 2015 12:37 >To: crm-sig >Subject: [Crm-sig] Fwd: DigiPal: The Problem of Digital Dating: Online >Survey > >Dear all, > >This survey and the rationale behind it may be of interest to members >of the CRM SIG too. > >Best, > >Øyvind > >Begin forwarded message: > >> From: James Cummings <[email protected]> >> Subject: DigiPal: The Problem of Digital Dating: Online Survey >> Date: 11. mars 2015 13:21:09 GMT+01:00 >> To: <[email protected]> >> Reply-To: <[email protected]> >> >> I might have missed it but I didn't see this survey (on what you >> expect when date searching for manuscripts) posted to TEI-L >> >> === >> >> DigiPal has produced: The Problem of Digital Dating: Online Survey >> >> >> Survey: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/FMS3735 >> >> More information: >> http://www.digipal.eu/blog/the-problem-of-digital-dating-online-surve >> y >> / >> >> >> === >> >> >> -- >> Dr James Cummings, [email protected] Academic IT Services, >> University of Oxford > > >_______________________________________________ >Crm-sig mailing list >[email protected] >http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig > > >_______________________________________________ >Crm-sig mailing list >[email protected] >http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig _______________________________________________ Crm-sig mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the addressee and may also be privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the addressee, or have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately, delete it from your system and do not copy, disclose or otherwise act upon any part of this email or its attachments. Internet communications are not guaranteed to be secure or virus-free. University of Roehampton does not accept responsibility for any loss arising from unauthorised access to, or interference with, any Internet communications by any third party, or from the transmission of any viruses. Any opinion or other information in this e-mail or its attachments that does not relate to the business of University of Roehampton is personal to the sender and is not given or endorsed by University of Roehampton. University of Roehampton is the trading name of Roehampton University, a company limited by guarantee incorporated in England under number 5161359. Registered Office: Grove House, Roehampton Lane, London SW15 5PJ. An exempt charity.
