Action from the SIG meeting to send information about partitioning of names:

Personal Names:

MARC has three subfields for name, in the bibliographic USMARC:
   https://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd100.html
   Which has a lot of name fields, but also a lot of related things to a name 
(such as date of a work in subfield f)

And the equivalent in MODS, for the type of namePart:
    https://www.loc.gov/standards/mods/userguide/name.html#namepart
    given, family, date, and termsOfAddress

In the Getty AAT vocabulary, we have the following types of names
  
http://www.getty.edu/vow/AATHierarchy?find=&logic=AND&note=&subjectid=300266386

Which include both type of the complete name (e.g. noms de guerres) and parts 
of names (middle name).
And name related concepts generally
    
http://www.getty.edu/vow/AATHierarchy?find=&logic=AND&note=&page=1&subjectid=300404653

Which includes prefix/suffix/title and similar.

Place Names:

For places, we have looked at the FGDC endorsed standard:
    https://www.fgdc.gov/fgdc-news/fgdc-endorses-address-data-standard
    https://www.fgdc.gov/standards/projects/address-data

Which is … comprehensive, to say the least.  We then cherry-picked the bits 
that we thought most useful, given the level of data description that we need 
for cultural heritage purposes.

Rob


From: Crm-sig <[email protected]> on behalf of Martin Doerr 
<[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 11:11 PM
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE: representing compound name strings

Dear Richard,

XML is even better. The distinction between XML tags and MARC subfield markers 
is not so substantial. An XML file is still a string. The question is about 
RDF, putting a compound into rdfs:Literal.
So, again, is there a good practice with XML elements ????

Cheers,

Martin

On 11/21/2018 6:58 PM, Richard Light wrote:

On 15/11/2018 21:28, Martin Doerr wrote:
Dear All,

I would expect that the library or archival community do have a good practice 
how to "squeeze" a compound name, such as :
"His Majesty Dr. Snoopy Hickup Miller Jr", with respective separators, in a 
machine readable string, that could be used as custom datatype in an 
rdfs:Literal as one instance of Appellation, rather than defining all possible 
name constituents as individual rdf properties.

Could be a MARC string? XML? TEI?

This would be very helpful for our users.
Martin,

I'm pretty sure that the most recent attempt at doing this will be the subfield 
markers ($a, etc.) in MARC. which date from the era of punched cards.  The 
requirement that all of the name appears in a single string will rule out 
anything that might have been done in XML (where you might typically use 
attributes or subelements) or TEI (which is, after all, simply an XML 
application).

It's a nice idea, which follows the approach of encoding one 'compound' value 
as a single string, but I don't think we will find a ready-made standard for it.

Richard



Best,

Martin

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