On 9/9/2020 7:47 PM, Robert Sanderson wrote:
Oh, I'm sorry for duplicating your original issue 229 Athina! Great
minds think alike, perhaps?
It seems like 229 was closed in favor of discussing it as part of 307,
but that discussion didn't happen. 293 does seem like a good venue,
but ultimately there is an inconsistency right now (as you recognized
long ago!) that should not persist in version 7.0 regardless of
whether ObservableEntity / Observation are moved into CRM Core or not.
I agree.
M
Rob
On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 10:57 AM athinak <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
As I remember, this problem was discussed in issues 229 and 307,
which
are declared closed. However, I am wondering, if it is related to the
issue 293?
Athina
Στις 2020-09-09 17:26, Athanasios Velios έγραψε:
> Good point, but it seems to me that being able to measure a Place is
> pretty important. Otherwise we have to measure through the physical
> object/site reference or the declarative space as part of a
conceptual
> thing.
>
> Thanasis
>
>
>
> On 09/09/2020 13:39, Robert Sanderson wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I believe that there is an inconsistency in the model for
measurements
>> and dimensions.
>>
>> E54 Dimensions are associated directly with E70 Things using
P43 has
>> dimension. So not every class can have dimensions, only those
that
>> are descendents of E70.
>>
>> However E16 Measurement's property P39 measured has a range of
E1 CRM
>> Entity, meaning that while (for example) an E53 Place cannot
have a
>> dimension, it can be measured to have a dimension. This seems
>> inconsistent that an entity that cannot have dimensions can
still be
>> measured.
>>
>> I propose that the range of P39 measured be changed to E70
Thing to
>> resolve this inconsistency.
>>
>> I would also be okay with the other direction by changing the
domain
>> of P43 has dimension to be E1 CRM Entity, however that seems
like a
>> much more significant change, and would result in quite strange
side
>> effects such as Dimensions having Dimensions.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> -- Rob Sanderson
>> Director for Cultural Heritage Metadata
>> Yale University
>>
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