Indeed durations can be measured as distances between two events. Einstein regarded that length measurements are two simultaneous events matching both endpoints of a yardstick with something. This is the basis of the Theory of Relativity.

Basically we have to do with signals.

To be discussed!

M

On 9/9/2020 5:49 PM, Robert Sanderson wrote:

Thanks Thanasis.  Yes, there's various dimensions that are associated with non-Things, and I agree that Place is particularly easy to justify.

Place:  Area. The county of Los Angeles has a dimension of 4751 square miles. If the place is approximate, then the radius of a centroid would be an obvious dimension to record, or height/width for bounding box defined Places. Time-Span:  Duration is already a property of a Time-Span that refers to a dimension (P191). This could then be a subproperty of P43, or deprecated in favor of a classification on the Dimension.

Temporal Entity and Spacetime Volume are a bit strange in relation to Time-Span. Does the Period have the duration or the Time-Span, or both? What if they're different
Conversely Dimensions seem like they should not have Dimensions.

Rob


On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 10:33 AM Athanasios Velios <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Good point, but it seems to me that being able to measure a Place is
    pretty important. Otherwise we have to measure through the physical
    object/site reference or the declarative space as part of a
    conceptual
    thing.

    Thanasis



    On 09/09/2020 13:39, Robert Sanderson wrote:
    >
    > Dear all,
    >
    > I believe that there is an inconsistency in the model for
    measurements
    > and dimensions.
    >
    > E54 Dimensions are associated directly with E70 Things using P43
    has
    > dimension.  So not every class can have dimensions, only those
    that are
    > descendents of E70.
    >
    > However E16 Measurement's property P39 measured has a range of
    E1 CRM
    > Entity, meaning that while (for example) an E53 Place cannot have a
    > dimension, it can be measured to have a dimension. This seems
    > inconsistent that an entity that cannot have dimensions can
    still be
    > measured.
    >
    > I propose that the range of P39 measured be changed to E70 Thing to
    > resolve this inconsistency.
    >
    > I would also be okay with the other direction by changing the
    domain of
    > P43 has dimension to be E1 CRM Entity, however that seems like a
    much
    > more significant change, and would result in quite strange side
    effects
    > such as Dimensions having Dimensions.
    >
    > Rob
    >
    > --
    > Rob Sanderson
    > Director for Cultural Heritage Metadata
    > Yale University
    >
    > _______________________________________________
    > Crm-sig mailing list
    > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    > http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig
    >
    _______________________________________________
    Crm-sig mailing list
    [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig



--
Rob Sanderson
Director for Cultural Heritage Metadata
Yale University

_______________________________________________
Crm-sig mailing list
[email protected]
http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig


--
------------------------------------
 Dr. Martin Doerr
Honorary Head of the
 Center for Cultural Informatics
Information Systems Laboratory
 Institute of Computer Science
 Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH)
N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton,
 GR70013 Heraklion,Crete,Greece
Vox:+30(2810)391625
 Email: [email protected]
 Web-site: http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl

_______________________________________________
Crm-sig mailing list
[email protected]
http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig

Reply via email to